Vaccine Passport

[barnaclebill58]

If Lesley has been vaccinated, she can still (apparently ) spread the virus
If Miranda has not been vaccinated , she can still spread the virus.
In both cases, if they don't have the virus, they can't spread it and it's not clear to me as to whether asymptomatic spreading exists.
Anyway what is the point of the passports if both can spread it?

[bednobs]

there's a vaccine passport?? Do you have a link?

[barnaclebill58]

I didn't say there was but there is a lot of talk about them.

[bednobs]

so you are asking the point of something that doesn't actually exist?
i'm not sure what answers you expect tbh

[pixie374]

I think it's more risk assessment, that one is far less likely to be able to pass it on, rather than a guarantee.

[burlyshirley]

Get used to it barnacle, the world's gone mad !!

[bobbinwales]

The risk of Lesley picking it up may be reduced- there not sure yet? The risk of her then passing it on is now known to be less than if she hadnt had it. They just cant say for sure yet whether it falls by say 25% or 70%. She's certainly less like to have covid real bad and be sneezing and couhing over other passenger's

[bobbinwales]

If you had to share a plane and then a hotel with 200 vaccinnated passengers or 200 unvaccinnated which would you choose barniclebill?

[chelle7272]

You have a lot less chance of getting it, and therefore being able to pass it on, if you have been vaccinated.
A destination country is more likely to accept a planeful of vaccinated people, than some vaccinated and some who may be ill, get ill, or carry the virus.

[Sqad]

/////Anyway what is the point of the passports if both can spread it?///////

No point.

But if both are vaccinated, then they can't get the disease and hence cannot spread it to an unvacinated society.

[pixie374]

Anyway, you wouldn't need a vaccine passport. They'll just scan your chip ;-)

[woofgang]

chunky or american style?

[pixie374]

French Fries :-)

[THECORBYLOON]

SQAD, you are not correct when you stated,

"But if both are vaccinated, then they can't get the disease and hence cannot spread it to an unvacinated society."

From the Government's website

"Will the vaccine protect you?

The COVID-19 vaccine that you have had has been shown to reduce the chance of you suffering from COVID-19 disease. Each vaccine has been tested in more than 20,000 people in several different countries and shown to be safe.

It may take a week or two for your body to build up some protection from the first dose of vaccine. Like all medicines, no vaccine is completely effective, so you should continue to take recommended precautions to avoid infection. Some people may still get COVID-19 despite having a vaccination, but this should be less severe.

Can you give COVID-19 to anyone if you have had the vaccine?

The vaccine cannot give you COVID-19 infection, and a full course will reduce your chance of becoming seriously ill. We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus, but we do expect it to reduce this risk. So, it is still important to follow the guidance in your local area to protect those around you.

To protect yourself and your family, friends and colleagues you still need to:
practice social distancing
wear a face mask
wash your hands carefully and frequently
follow the current guidance"

[barnaclebill58]

Sqad
I don't think that being vaccinated stops you from getting it -the theory is that it shouldn't kill you.
Bednobs -would you have been happier if I'd made the title "Possible vaccine passports"?
Bobbinwales. It really wouldn't bother me. I travelled on crowded trains before the March lockdown and watched the Cheltenham festival in packed pubs.

[Sqad]

Corby....OK! OK I will amend my answer to " if you are vaccinated then you have a 70-90% chance of getting the disease.
Was that your point?

[pixie374]

Not getting it... ;-)

[Sqad]

pixie.....lol......correct.

[bobbinwales]

//Bobbinwales. It really wouldn't bother me. I travelled on crowded trains before the March lockdown and watched the Cheltenham festival in packed pubs.//
Yes, many have been lucky like you and lucky and carefull like me. We'er lucky not be one of the 430000 admitted to hospital covid wards or the 110000 dead.
Are you saying your happy not to bother with the vaccinne as you've survived so far

[New Judge]

//If you had to share a plane and then a hotel with 200 vaccinnated passengers or 200 unvaccinnated which would you choose barniclebill?//

If I'd been vaccinated it wouldn't bother me either way.