Protecting The Nhs, Isn't It Supposed To Protect Us?

[dave50]

A precedent has now been set that we must not now allow the NHS to become too busy with patients. It's no longer about preventing people from dying, it's now all about the NHS workload. It's becoming ridiculous.

[New Judge]

It's because it's the number that matters that they don't give it, Dave.

[THECORBYLOON]

There were 1,431 admitted in the seven days to 15th June and that is an increase of 39.6% over the previous seven-day period.

[New Judge]

Yes and a lot of them came out because the numbers in dock in that week increased by only 174. There are around 150,000 NHS beds in the UK and the latest number of Covid patients is 1,229 - less than 1% of the total beds.

This is a farce. The country is remaining under restrictions that are causing immense damage purely as precautionary measure. There is no basis for them to continue. They are being maintained simply in case numbers go up. Of course this virus will spread. That's what all viruses do. We simply cannot go on jumping down a rabbit hole every time a new variant appears "just in case". The link between the virus and serious illness has been all but broken and the NHS will have to cope with the cases where it hasn't.

[New Judge]

And I forgot to add that the hypocrisy of this government in allowing mass gatherings of people - from the G7 conference to sporting events - whilst I can't invite five fully vaccinated people into my front room for dinner with Mrs NJ and me - is disreputable.

[THECORBYLOON]

Where does your figure of 1,229 COVID patients come from?

[New Judge]

From this (figure for 15th June - the week you mentioned).

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare

[Canary42]

The NHS was a fine institution when it was established by the Labour Party, to vehement and vociferous opposition from the Tory Party. The latter have been surreptitiously destabilising it ever since.

[New Judge]

The latter [the Tory Party] have been surreptitiously destabilising it ever since.

No they haven't. It is patients that have been destabilising it as the latest mantra imploring them to protect the NHS suggests.

The latest plea, now that Covid hospitalisations seem not to be rising at the same rate as new infections, seems to suggest that we must all steer clear of the NHS whilst it tries to catch up from its de facto closure of the last fifteen months. The implication of this is that, as well as not becoming ill, we should also steer clear of any activities which may see the need for medical attention, such as sporting activities, travelling anywhere, taking a bath or cutting up vegetables. It's a bit like a bus company imploring its passengers not to wait at bus stops. That way, their buses will not run the risk of being late as a result of having to stop to pick up passengers.

[THECORBYLOON]

I selected England from the dropdown and that gives a figure of 1,290 patients so I am none the wiser still.

[dannyk13]

Canary at 10.46
Unsubstantiated rubbish.

[New Judge]

//I selected England from the dropdown and that gives a figure of 1,290 patients so I am none the wiser still.//

Go to the second section (Patients in hospital). Leave the data at "UK Total". Click on "data (to change from a chart to a table). Look at the figure for 15-06-2021 (1,229):

https://ibb.co/7p111Pn

[THECORBYLOON]

Thanks for that.