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Is South Africa Following Rhodesia Down The Pan?

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ToraToraTora | 15:51 Tue 13th Jul 2021 | News
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My partner is from South Africa and her children are there. We used to go there every winter but obviously because of Covid this did not happen last winter. She has now booked to go back next month - but I did not. Now she is having doubts about going. Friends there, and in other parts of the world, think coming now is a very bad idea. In 'normal' times living in South...
15:23 Fri 16th Jul 2021
speccie is a 3 min read
does it say anything we dont know?

Mandela was Good but not very good at being pres
Mbeki was pretty awful but had effective ( not 'able') minions
Zuma was corrupt and everyone knew it
Ramaphosa is rich before hand and doesnt need to be richer
conclude: that is how it is

a few Abers here are crypto-jaapies and have told us better how it is - country deteermined to render itself an economic basket case like the ones up north
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wow thanks playbill, BA, that's a great insight, it's like something out of a dystopian sci fi movie.
the only reason I go is the weather
go to Darzet aaaargh
or skeggie

you are more likely to come back
dystopian sci fi movie
er like - - - District 9

( NOT Banlieue 12 - which is another one set in France)
I was in Port Elizabeth last March and there were minibuses full of ‘yoot’ just cruising around shouting at people. Went to a small shopping mall and got hassled by some more kids on the way in and out. The place we stayed (just for one night) had steel gates / CCTV / coded locks. It wasn’t a nice place to be. The shanty towns on the outskirts of Cape Town were sprawling and squalid. The ‘us’ and ‘them’ situation was clearly evident.
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fender: "talking with some some people who lived in south africa have said to me, is was better under apartheid, law and order and prosperous. " - well we dare not say that these days but I think it's probably true.

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