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Gully And Other Intenrational Socialists/The Hard Left To Accept This
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A report in the Sunday Tel that the RMT have reverted to 'extreme' capatalism.
1. The RMT, Unison and Unite bribing workers to strike, effectively doubling their pay.
2. RMT has a war chest of £100 thousands of BP and RDShell shares - part of £22 mln that they hold.
3. Money invested in Melrose that oversaw the break-up of GKN
4. £120k invested in Man, a hedge fun in Lloyds and HSBC while campaigning for the banks' brea-up.
5. Investments in Diageo, Astra Z abd GlaxoSmithKline that have made £5 mln.
6. Mike Lynch awarded pay of £163k....yet the union has criticised others and the Rail industry fpr investor payouts.... "It's time to cut out those greedy middlemen and bring the whole of the railway into public hands." Tell me......
Bloody hypocrites that the three rail unions are......and Arthur et al would be turning in his grave, if they were any different - yet Gully et al who have leftwing/communist sympathies have remained very quiet over this - but, then, should we be surprised?
1. The RMT, Unison and Unite bribing workers to strike, effectively doubling their pay.
2. RMT has a war chest of £100 thousands of BP and RDShell shares - part of £22 mln that they hold.
3. Money invested in Melrose that oversaw the break-up of GKN
4. £120k invested in Man, a hedge fun in Lloyds and HSBC while campaigning for the banks' brea-up.
5. Investments in Diageo, Astra Z abd GlaxoSmithKline that have made £5 mln.
6. Mike Lynch awarded pay of £163k....yet the union has criticised others and the Rail industry fpr investor payouts.... "It's time to cut out those greedy middlemen and bring the whole of the railway into public hands." Tell me......
Bloody hypocrites that the three rail unions are......and Arthur et al would be turning in his grave, if they were any different - yet Gully et al who have leftwing/communist sympathies have remained very quiet over this - but, then, should we be surprised?
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Thanks for that Link New Judge.
As for "(what amounts to) Communism",
well frequent users - and particularly on this Forum - of this clichéd, massive paint brush term, "Communism", are not able to define it in their own words, never mind the ENORMOUS difference between "Communism " and socialism /Socialism, so a refining of what the RMT means by "4.(b) to work for the supersession of the capitalist system by a socialistic order of society; " is moot.
RMT OBJECTIVES AND CONSTITUTION OF THE UNION
'part 4.(h) to settle disputes between its members and employers, regulate the relations between those parties by the collective withholding of labour or otherwise, and to provide funds for the relief of members during trade disputes connected with their employment subject to these Rules;'
and '4.(k) to provide funds for legal assistance, strike and provident benefits as provided by these Rules;'
might interest DTCwordfan.
As for "(what amounts to) Communism",
well frequent users - and particularly on this Forum - of this clichéd, massive paint brush term, "Communism", are not able to define it in their own words, never mind the ENORMOUS difference between "Communism " and socialism /Socialism, so a refining of what the RMT means by "4.(b) to work for the supersession of the capitalist system by a socialistic order of society; " is moot.
RMT OBJECTIVES AND CONSTITUTION OF THE UNION
'part 4.(h) to settle disputes between its members and employers, regulate the relations between those parties by the collective withholding of labour or otherwise, and to provide funds for the relief of members during trade disputes connected with their employment subject to these Rules;'
and '4.(k) to provide funds for legal assistance, strike and provident benefits as provided by these Rules;'
might interest DTCwordfan.
As a former trade union official, I never associated myslf with the term communism or left winger, fifth columnist or any other of those references. I just wanted fairness and job security. As I posted earlier on this thread, I never advocated strike action and still don't. It's a loser for everyone, not just union members. Other options are available, especially dialogue. All sides should recognize that and act accordingly.
OK, let's move away from "Communism" debate which, as you say, is not mentioned (except by me).
Do you consider it is a legitimate aim of a trade union to seek to supersede a capitalist system by a "socialist order of society" (whatever that might mean), especially bearing in mind that this particular union has the ability to inflict enormous damage on the economy and considerable grief on millions of people? Shouldn't something as radical as that be determined by the electorate as a whole?
Do you consider it is a legitimate aim of a trade union to seek to supersede a capitalist system by a "socialist order of society" (whatever that might mean), especially bearing in mind that this particular union has the ability to inflict enormous damage on the economy and considerable grief on millions of people? Shouldn't something as radical as that be determined by the electorate as a whole?
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