Starmer

[Paigntonian]

Now Boris has kinda gone, Starmer holds a press conference to inform the nation that he didn't break the law. Neither did most of us. He's a limp lettuce leaf and the Labour front bench know it. At least Kinnock or, even, Corbyn had some balls. The Tories will get a boost from a new leader's honeymoon period. If Labour are at all serious they have to get rid of of the charisma by-pass.

[Gromit]

The police cleared him (again) this morning.
Is he supposed to not comment on that?

[FatticusInch]

He has been very slow to grow into the role this far.
Labour need Chris Bryant as their leader, Wes Streeting may be one for the future.

[naomi24]

I didn’t see it. Did he happen to mention that the police and crime commissioner is a Labour stalwart?

[Gromit]

Not impressed with Starmer.

// The Tories will get a boost from a new leader's honeymoon period. //

That is a bit of an assumption. Depends who it is. And their past. And whether they can u ite a very disunited party.

[Paigntonian]

Utterly useless. If you can't make real progress against the Tories now you never will. How many open goals do you need?

[ichkeria]

As I said before, I’ll take “boring” any day after what we’ve just had (um, still have).
And that includes any Tory

[Paigntonian]

ich: people are generally not motivated to vote for people who are, or are perceived as, boring. Not rocket science is it?

[Gromit]

https://www.durham.gov.uk/media/35442/Police-and-Crime-Commissioner-election-certificate-of-result/pdf/PCC-CertificateOfResult.pdf?m=637920127225800000

The Conservatives politicised the police and crime commissioners when they made it an elected role.
My police and crime Commissioner is Andy Burnham. I would guess yours is connected to a political party, because they all are.

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

Why are Labour so averse to female leadership?

[Mozz71]

I didn't know they were Hazi. Personally, I think Jess Phillips would make a great Labour leader one day.

[naomi24]

TTT, perhaps because Angela and Diane are the best they’ve got!

[anneasquith]

Mozz at 17.03 I agree.

[FatticusInch]

naomi24
//TTT, perhaps because Angela and Diane are the best they’ve got!//

Blimey, ToraToraTora hasn’t even posted on this thread and you’re replying to him!
Are you sure you’re both not Dorries and Johnson? Lol

[jno]

yes, but you haven't been assailed on the front page of the Daily Mail as a lawbreaker, several times, and you haven't (as far as I know) been investigated at the behest of the ruling party. Having been accused so often by so many, he's right to assert his innocence. (As you have just asserted yours.)

[naomi24]

Oops, I meant hazi.

[jno]

//people are generally not motivated to vote for people who are, or are perceived as, boring//

John Major? Voters do sometimes yearn for calm after the storm.

[FatticusInch]

naomi24
//Oops, I meant hazi.//

Ok Nadi…..sorry, Naomi.

[Atheist]

What about Clem Attlee, who followed Churchill? boring or what?