Is This What Brexiteers Wanted?

[diddlydo]

Queues at Dover:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-62263176

I wonder how many of those caught up in the queues voted for Brexit. We travelled to France dozens of times when we were in the EU and were never held up at French border control (which was often unmanned as it didn't need to check anything). I hopr Brexiteers are sent to the back of the queue.

[New Judge]

//. i doubt that many people who voted to leave will ever admit that they got it wrong//

But I didn't get it wrong. I wanted the UK to leave the EU, and that's what we've done.

//...but I think future generations will look on it as a mistake...//

I think it's more likely that future generations will be asking "What was the EU?" in the same way that some younger people are now asking "What was the USSR?"

[ToraToraTora]

bang on judge there are none so blind as those that refuse to see.

[New Judge]

As far as these problems being predicted go, they were predicted. But normal organisations and normal governments, when presented with such predictions, take action to avoid the problems. The business of border control into France is entirely a matter for the French. If their request for additional juxtaposed facilities here in Dover were declined they should have taken steps to provide those facilities in Calais. Yes, the last weekend was exceptionally busy, but businesses and organisations must plan for peaks and troughs and not expect their customers to simply endure chaos.

[FatticusInch]

New Judge
//As far as these problems being predicted go, they were predicted.//

……but totally refuted by government ministers.
You ought to look at the video just to see how foolish and incompetent they’ve made themselves look, not that that requires much validation.

[Ellipsis]

> I would say this is what is known as, "The Black Swan" theory, do you know what that is?

Yes, having read the book, and similar books, and coming from a maths-ish (more science and engineering) background, I know what it is.

> It was advanced by the writer N. N. Taleb, & refers to unexpected events that have extreme consequences, but are rationalised after by clever *** who say, "That was always going to happen".

And you clearly don't know what a black swan event is, if you think this past weekend's queues were an example of one ...

[Untitled]

"But I didn't get it wrong."

As my mum used to say... that can be the title of your autobiography :)

[Khandro]

Ellipsis; Did you predict the combination of events which has happened would take place, if so when ? but exactly as the theory goes, you're making a lot of noise about its inevitability afterwards.

[Ellipsis]

Please, Khandro, you're embarrassing yourself. Try this, from 2018:

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/186530/how-imperials-findings-post-brexit-borders-caught/