Living In Notorious Places

[bednobs]

On the anniversary of the Hungerford shootings I was wondering how long it is before notorious place names fade out if people's minds? I used to live in Hungerford years after the massacre but it was the main thing people said to me about if I ever had to give my address. I'm not sure that's still the case for people who live there.
I was wondering about people who live in Soham or Lockerbie or any other places attached to notorious events. Do the memories of the notorious place name fade quickly? Or does it depend what the event was?

[mushroom25]

on the subject of Carstairs Maggie, a prisoner there was given an absolute discharge in 1999, exploiting a legal loophole that his illness was untreatable. this resulted in the Mental Health (Public Safety and Appeals) (Scotland) Act 1999, which was the very first legislation enacted by the fledgling Scottish government, effectively sealing the loophole.

[Peter Pedant]

Maggie - Dundee is famous for other things - cake and....

the Tay, the Tay, the silvery Tay
It flows through Dundee ev'ry day !

Luckily....
Gosh Bobbi, I dont know how you put up with relentlessly cheerful ABers

[Peter Pedant]

hi moosheh - anything on anthropologists writing about anthropology?

and the act of which you speak
Mental Health (Public Safety and Appeals) (Scotland) Act 1999 (repealed)

is not available. didnt last long and then was appealed.

any details ?

[mushroom25]

// any details? //

the 1999 act was emergency legislation. it was repealed and replaced by the Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Act 2003 on 5 October 2005.

[Ellipsis]

Personal memories ...

King's Cross (1987) and 7/7 (2005): the 7/7 bombings were Tavistock Square (bus), Aldgate, Edgware Road and Russell Square - all closely connected to King's Cross by a short tube journey, and I went through all of them regularly. Luckily for me, none of them anywhere near the times the tragedies happened.

I was also held up for several hours outside just Clapham Junction by the crash in 1988. The crash must have only just happened as we heard silence initially, then more and more emergency vehicle sirens as we sat there wondering what was going on. Even so, I don't immediately think of that tragedy when I hear "Clapham Junction" now, like I do of Pan Am flight 103 when I hear the word "Lockerbie".

[Peter Pedant]

thanks mooshie
anything on anthropologists writing about what anthropologists do? ( like you know they write about what doctors do in Medical Anthropology, and culchas in Cultural Anthropology)

[Peter Pedant]

lardy dah - it has 210 sections - the ones about release of prisoners not that obvious...
( medical care and tmt act 2003)

[jno]

Ellipsis, at second hand, I had a friend who lost a flatmate at King's Cross and another lost a close friend on 7/7, on the bus. Both were devastated, and one moved abroad afterward. I used to travel through King's Cross a lot, but I didn't feel lucky: things happen and you're there or you aren't. For those who know a victim, though, it must be wrenching.

[Ellipsis]

Yep, awful. Like you I used to pass through a lot, less so now. Unlike you, I did feel a bit lucky.

[tiggerblue10]

I remember the Croydon tram crash in 2016. My friend missed that tram on the day of the crash as she was off sick from work.

[barry1010]

I live not far from Yew Tree Farm and the murder is still talked about

[Canary42]

Moorgate ? I must admit that tragedy would occur to me if I ever caught a Tube to that destination.

[FatticusInch]

The only time I ever drove through Warrenpoint was particularly eerie and I felt as though I shouldn’t be there, glancing across Carlingford Lough, where the IRA bombers would have been situated.
Bar a few flowers and cards on the fencing there was nothing to suggest what had ever happened there, but it was a spooky place that would resonate with any soldier.

Oddly, later that year(not of the massacre, that was 9 years before) we were sent from Crossmaglen to the scene of a large explosion in South Armagh where there had been an ‘own goal’ and one of the Warrenpoint bombers, Brendan Burns(what was left of him) had been spread over a wide area.

Warrenpoint happened on exactly the same day that Lord Mountbatten was killed in Southern Ireland.

[FatticusInch]

Ellipsis
//Personal memories ...

King's Cross (1987) and 7/7 (2005): the 7/7 bombings were Tavistock Square (bus), Aldgate, Edgware Road and Russell Square - all closely connected to King's Cross by a short tube journey, and I went through all of them regularly.//

As did my sister, who was living and working down there at the time.
As it was being reported live on Sky News I remember frantically trying to call her to tell her to get off any form of public transport, but the networks had gone into meltdown.
She said it took her 4 hours to walk home that day.