No Longer World Leaders.

[gulliver1]

UK .NHS, now ranks at 16th out of 35 European Countries. Nhs is now on par with Estonia and the Czech Republic .And Ireland performed even worse .
What has happened ? is it down to an inferior Government with an incompetent PM,?

[Peter Pedant]

excuse for a Government........
what govt? hur hur hur

[gulliver1]

P.P 14.44 Think they call themselves TORIES.

[New Judge]

//Even more jobs for the Boat people, see!//

No chance, Zacs. They are all fully qualified architects, civil engineers and software designers. No trainee nurses to be seen.

[fender62]

watched the news yesterday, illegals in calais drinking jb and smoking cannabis obviously trained individuals britain needs...no need for background checks there, or any of the erm 20.000 whatever.

[THECORBYLOON]

KHANDRO, your claim was "all of whom have never contributed a penny to the NHS".

"
If they have been in the UK & are working (not all of them are) for say 3 years, they will have paid only 3 years of N.I. contributions & taxes, but have the same entitlement as a person who has paid in for 50 years.

As I say, how can that work ?"

There will be millions born in the UK who had not paid tax or NI prior to receiving NHS treatment so what is your point?

[youngmafbog]

//There will be millions born in the UK who had not paid tax or NI prior to receiving NHS treatment so what is your point?//

Only if you are counting children. But then you would wouldnt you.

[THECORBYLOON]

Why would they not be counted?

There will also be adults born in the UK who have not paid tax or NI prior to receiving NHS treatment.

[Khandro]

Coby; How can adults living in the UK avoid paying tax? Do let us know

[Zacs-Master]

Students, Khandro and those earning below the tax threshold as 2 examples.

[THECORBYLOON]

"Coby; How can adults living in the UK avoid paying tax? Do let us know"

Er, by not working?

[THECORBYLOON]

Some adults on state benefits may never have paid tax or NI having never been able to work.

[Zacs-Master]

3 examples.

[Zacs-Master]

4 examples.

[New Judge]

//There will also be adults born in the UK who have not paid tax or NI prior to receiving NHS treatment.//

Indeed Corby. And that’s bad enough but not something we can realistically do much about (though I have one or two ideas).

[Khandro]

Most food products are exempt from tax, but just about everything else isn't

[gulliver1]

I Have an elderly Relative, who also served Queen and Country just like TTT has. This relative went to live in Cyprus on retirement.
He returned to the UK a few years ago with his wife, to visit relatives. They both suffered food poisoning from a dodgy UK Restaurant... They were refused NHS treatment and access to a NHS Doctor and medical treatment because they had lived outside the UK for more than 3 months .

[tomus42]

If people would stop spouting random statistics with no reference to their source it would help this kind of discussion.

89.5% of people on AB do this and as a result this is 25th least popular question and answer site in the northern hemisphere.

[gulliver1]

Tomus 42 ,@ 19.42 Can I Help you in any way.?

[Khandro]

gulliver: Your elderly relative should have seen that he had the necessary E11 (or Cypriot equivalent) form before he travelled.

How long ago was it?

[tomus42]

Yes gulliver, you can. Post something to support your random ..stuff, to give it a bit more weight.