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working/learning what is fair what is law
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Hi, my wife starts work at 8.15am Breaks for 1hr at 13.00 Clocks off at 5.30pm. She works in the heallthcare sector. Recently she has been directed to attend a compulsary (by government and employer) course that will last one year. It is an hour drive to the venue, 2 hours in duration and 1 hr home. (ONCE A WEEK)
She does not arrive home until 10PM after various car park fumblings etc. Her employer does not pay her for these four hours, will not give her any time off before the course, or after the course. She obviously finds it a strain, leaving the house at 7.20am returning at 10pm. WHAT SHOULD HER EMPLOYER DO A.) TO BE FAIR B.) IN THE EYES OF THE LAW I have checked ACAS site, but I don't expect that the course itself counts as employment. I will be drafting a letter suggesting they allow her a couple of hours before the course to take a break, or a couple of hours the following morning. else she will be leaving their employment as no one needs this for 14K a year and 2 hr commuting every day! I think that would be fair if I was anyones employer, what do you all think? Thanks
She does not arrive home until 10PM after various car park fumblings etc. Her employer does not pay her for these four hours, will not give her any time off before the course, or after the course. She obviously finds it a strain, leaving the house at 7.20am returning at 10pm. WHAT SHOULD HER EMPLOYER DO A.) TO BE FAIR B.) IN THE EYES OF THE LAW I have checked ACAS site, but I don't expect that the course itself counts as employment. I will be drafting a letter suggesting they allow her a couple of hours before the course to take a break, or a couple of hours the following morning. else she will be leaving their employment as no one needs this for 14K a year and 2 hr commuting every day! I think that would be fair if I was anyones employer, what do you all think? Thanks
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You say your wife works in the healthcare sector. Do you mean the NHS because if you do, all mandatory courses are within the 'normal' working hours of 9 - 5. Travelling time is granted and the course itself is part of the working day. Any time above the person's 'normal' working hours is TOIL (time off in lieu), Flexi or overtime. Suggests she takes legal advice from her union rep.
Have to be honest and say that I did a similar journey when I was studying and I wasnt paid to do it or TOIL. I did it for my own reasons i.e. better career choice after. My employers did pay for the course and it did benefit me when I had completed it because I was promoted.
Depends what the course is and if its a benefit to your wife. I would also look at your wifes contract to see if there was anything written into it regarding courses or if your wife indicated she would be willing to take on training if the chance arose.
Depends what the course is and if its a benefit to your wife. I would also look at your wifes contract to see if there was anything written into it regarding courses or if your wife indicated she would be willing to take on training if the chance arose.
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