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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.The asylum problem has been escalating, seemingly unchecked, for years now.
If I, as an ordinary citizen, can understand that taking over two entire hotels my city, and filling them with assylum seekers, cancelling four weddings planned for years in each, cannot be construed as anything approaching reasonable, then the politicians who make these decisions can understand it as well.
I don't understand who this situation has been allowed to reach these levels, where immigrants are clearly passing through safe countries on their way here, and on arrival, are being billeted in hotels while waiting to be 'processed', and their children are given priority for places in already full schools.
If Mr Sunak is finally going to get a grip of this situation, then all power to him - it will certainly aid his efforts to get re-elected when the time comes, this action is a major vote winner.
If I, as an ordinary citizen, can understand that taking over two entire hotels my city, and filling them with assylum seekers, cancelling four weddings planned for years in each, cannot be construed as anything approaching reasonable, then the politicians who make these decisions can understand it as well.
I don't understand who this situation has been allowed to reach these levels, where immigrants are clearly passing through safe countries on their way here, and on arrival, are being billeted in hotels while waiting to be 'processed', and their children are given priority for places in already full schools.
If Mr Sunak is finally going to get a grip of this situation, then all power to him - it will certainly aid his efforts to get re-elected when the time comes, this action is a major vote winner.
It will only be successful if the government are allowed to do what they propose. Therefore the lefty lawyer brigade, the 'charities', do gooders and European Courts must be circumnavigated to see any possible hope of doing what the vast majority of the voting public wish for - stopping this ridiculous number of illegal immigrants getting here by their own steam or courtesy of the taxi service called the RNLI. By all means allow immigration to people who apply for and the receive leave to land on our shores or airports LEGALLY.
Like many politicians, he talks a good talk does Mr Sunak.
Here's my "Five point plan":
1. The UK withdraws as a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights.
2. The UK's Human Rights Act is repealed.
3. The UK properly utilises Article 31 of the UN Convention on the treatment on refugees. This allows action to be take against people arriving without leave having come from a safe country, and which the government has already legislated for.
4. Proper steps are taken to physically prevent illegal migrants landing here.
5. Any migrants that do arrive are accommodated in secure austere conditions, under canvas, with basic rations and no cash and held there until arrangements are made for their deportation or until they agree to leave the country voluntarily.
I see none of this in Mr Sunak's plans so the problem will prevail and almost certainly worsen. So don't book any holiday accommodation in the UK for the foreseeable future because the chances are it will be requisitioned by the government to house foreign chancers and criminals.
Here's my "Five point plan":
1. The UK withdraws as a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights.
2. The UK's Human Rights Act is repealed.
3. The UK properly utilises Article 31 of the UN Convention on the treatment on refugees. This allows action to be take against people arriving without leave having come from a safe country, and which the government has already legislated for.
4. Proper steps are taken to physically prevent illegal migrants landing here.
5. Any migrants that do arrive are accommodated in secure austere conditions, under canvas, with basic rations and no cash and held there until arrangements are made for their deportation or until they agree to leave the country voluntarily.
I see none of this in Mr Sunak's plans so the problem will prevail and almost certainly worsen. So don't book any holiday accommodation in the UK for the foreseeable future because the chances are it will be requisitioned by the government to house foreign chancers and criminals.
Maybe when invaders land they should be handed a towel, a tent and a map showing what part of the beach can be used for their stay, pending a full investigation of their circumstances.
Their lawyers can be allocated adjacent space if they really want to immerse themselves in the struggle instead of playing at fly-by-night social workers.
Their lawyers can be allocated adjacent space if they really want to immerse themselves in the struggle instead of playing at fly-by-night social workers.
//Please clarify 'proper steps' NJ.//
You've asked me that before, Zacs. That's what we elect governments to do. But, as a starter, I would suggest patrols just inside UK waters turning round rubber boats back towards France. The boats are capable of the full crossing, so doing two halves (i.e. halfway across and then back) should be no problem. It should present no problem to the French as the UK authorities will be acting inside our territorial waters and the French can either ferry them ashore as we do or rescue them if they sink.
It is absolutely ludicrous that this country must watch boatloads of migrants, who have absolutely no right to land here, arrive in their thousands, especially when we have no facilities to deal with them.
My proposal only sounds harsh because it has become accepted that the scandal must simply continue. That acceptance should never have developed.
You've asked me that before, Zacs. That's what we elect governments to do. But, as a starter, I would suggest patrols just inside UK waters turning round rubber boats back towards France. The boats are capable of the full crossing, so doing two halves (i.e. halfway across and then back) should be no problem. It should present no problem to the French as the UK authorities will be acting inside our territorial waters and the French can either ferry them ashore as we do or rescue them if they sink.
It is absolutely ludicrous that this country must watch boatloads of migrants, who have absolutely no right to land here, arrive in their thousands, especially when we have no facilities to deal with them.
My proposal only sounds harsh because it has become accepted that the scandal must simply continue. That acceptance should never have developed.
Has no politician suggested deliberately sinking these boats? There wouldn't need to be many capsized, and their passengers tumbled into the cruel sea, before the message got across.
I think there'd be some in the general population who'd support such a proposal, and a few here in AB, too.
If you believe there's a different between children playing on thin ice and people risking all in a search for a better life, you could perhaps examine your thinking.
I think there'd be some in the general population who'd support such a proposal, and a few here in AB, too.
If you believe there's a different between children playing on thin ice and people risking all in a search for a better life, you could perhaps examine your thinking.
//If you believe there's a different between children playing on thin ice and people risking all in a search for a better life, you could perhaps examine your thinking.//
I've examined mine and it goes like this:
Those who you say are "in search of a better life" do not have to put out in totally unsuitable craft on treacherous waters in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. They are in a safe country where they can seek a better life without taking those risks. They deliberately place themselves in peril and the only surprising thing is that tragedies such as occurred today do not happen more often. In short, they are utterly stupid but the rewards are great for those prepared to disappear into the black economy or either petty or organised crime. Those who do not wish to work (either legally or illegally) will be well looked after and they know it. (So do UK taxpayers who are footing the bill for their exploits). They do so fully aware of the risks.
Contrarily the children who played on thin ice were simply silly children. It was a lark which went tragically wrong and even though they may have been warned of the risks, they didn't appreciate them. In short they were foolish but suffered the folly of youth and there was nothing in it for them other than enjoyment of the lark.
True, both the stupid and the foolish are equally dead. But the stupid behaved as they did for what they believed would be rich rewards; the foolish behaved as they did because they were foolish.
How does that grab you?
I've examined mine and it goes like this:
Those who you say are "in search of a better life" do not have to put out in totally unsuitable craft on treacherous waters in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. They are in a safe country where they can seek a better life without taking those risks. They deliberately place themselves in peril and the only surprising thing is that tragedies such as occurred today do not happen more often. In short, they are utterly stupid but the rewards are great for those prepared to disappear into the black economy or either petty or organised crime. Those who do not wish to work (either legally or illegally) will be well looked after and they know it. (So do UK taxpayers who are footing the bill for their exploits). They do so fully aware of the risks.
Contrarily the children who played on thin ice were simply silly children. It was a lark which went tragically wrong and even though they may have been warned of the risks, they didn't appreciate them. In short they were foolish but suffered the folly of youth and there was nothing in it for them other than enjoyment of the lark.
True, both the stupid and the foolish are equally dead. But the stupid behaved as they did for what they believed would be rich rewards; the foolish behaved as they did because they were foolish.
How does that grab you?