Why Are The Unions So Clueless.......?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64109462
...can they not see that the government can't react to their pointless strikes? If TGL taught us anything it was that. You cannot, must not appease union aggression. All they've done is cost their members wages. What you've been offered already is very generous so stop whining and get back to work, you've been lemmings following fools.

[New Judge]

It's because they believe they are still operating in the 1970s. Mind you, so do the rest of us.

[bobbinwales]

The arguments for a decent payrise are understandable especially for nurses but theres more to this than pay for rail unions and royal mail, there unions seem to be wanting to dictate how the there businesses are run and object to any 'modernisation', even in the nurses dispute and ambulances theres references to health service underfunding, privatisation rather than just pay. The only one I have real sympathy for is nurses as theres clearly a shortage of nurse's

[sandyRoe]

If inflation continues to run at 10% this time next year every £100 a worker earns will have the buying power of £90. An offer of 3 or 4% means they're still worse off.
Nurses, for example, can walk away from a very stressful job and earn better money outside the NHS.

[bobbinwales]

//Nurses, for example, can walk away from a very stressful job and earn better money outside the NHS.//
Whats sort of jobs are you thinking of sandy, they earn more than most of my colleagues and similar by thw way.
Most companies in private sector are paying less than 10%, alot less, as many cant afford more, the businesses are affected by higher energy costs, transports costs, raw materials inflation...its a case of 5% take it or leave for many private sector co's

[Khandro]

I would like to say to Mick Lynch, "So you've read one book, why not now go & read another? "

[ToraToraTora]

15:43, Sandy, if people keep getting more than inflation then inflation will get worse and they'll want even more next time. We must get inflation down.

[Gramps82]

If inflation is running at 10% and workers are given a pay increase above inflation will unions agree to a pay reduction when inflation is back to 3% of 4% and the cost of living becomes lower.

[Deskdiary]

"The arguments for a decent payrise are understandable especially for nurses..."

Why "especially" for nurses bob?

It's a myth that nurses are poorly paid.

A Band 7 Nurse (a Sister) earns an average basic of £44k (plus overtime, plus agency pay if they do either or both), and the RCN is suggesting, with a straight-face, that his or her salary should be increased by almost £8.5k. Even the most ardent supporters must agree that's nuts surely?

I simply refuse to believe that nurses are using foodbanks or are finishing off leftover patient food.

Those in the private sector are experiencing the same level of inflation to those in the public sector, and I can guarantee the vast majority of the private sector will not be giving inflation busting pay rises, so I struggle to understand why those paid from the public purse feel they deserve such large pay rises.

Here's an idea, an idea which would be roundly rubbished by unions...let's give all those clamouring for inflation proof rises, their wishes, BUT, when inflation reduces, which it will, they take a pay cut.

[naomi24]

They’re not clueless. They know exactly what they’re doing - and it isn’t striking for more money.

[ToraToraTora]

Yes naomi this is the unions thinking they can take on the government and moaning because they are achieving nothing except costing their own members.

[William51]

The unions are being greedy, but i read that some border guards have defied their union and gone back to work saying they need the money. Good for them.

[Deskdiary]

Naomi at 4.35 and TTT at 4.27 - I entirely agree.

These are political strikes.

[lankeela]

How many strikers are then making up their money by working overtime to catch up?