World Snooker Championship Stopped

[Ken4155]

Apologies if this has already been posted - i did do a search but found nothing.
Totally surprised that this cretin didn't get a few snooker cues wrapped around his head.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/tennis/world-snooker-championship-descends-into-chaos-as-just-stop-oil-protester-storms-table/ar-AA19Yomj?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=29cccf05342741ea965ec301cdab0ad1&ei=12

[Old_Geezer]

Laws on damaging tables alone hardly bans these sort of organisations, so, no, it isn't enough. One sees too many laws added for things that are already covered elsewhere so ought not have been passed. This is one area where defining something to stop groups indulging in this sort of activity is actually necessary.

Terrorism may be difficult to define but it hasn't stopped various groups being banned under it so far. It just needs this sort of group getting itself included.

[tomus42]

..and for those watching in black and white, the blue is just behind the orange.

[New Judge]

//.. but it's all about them and hang everyone else.//

Indeed, Ellipsis.

I have tried to demonstrate here that the views held by these protesters are simply theirs and are not necessarily shared by everybody else. But their actions demand that everybody shares their objectives. It's not how things are done and the sooner they realise that, the better. As Andy has mentioned, behaving the way they do is not likely to garner any support from those who don't currently give it.

[Untitled]

How could it possibly be defined as an act of terrorism? Farting in a lift is closer to being an act of terror than this!

[Untitled]

the goal is not to garner support from people who don’t currently support it… anyone who doesn’t currently agree about the climate change issue is frankly impossible to convince because the evidence is so strong… the goal is to mobilise people who agree with their cause and don’t currently do anything…

there’s an absolutely huge protest planned in London from april 21st to 24th… the aim of actions like this is to get that section of the population which agrees with them but doesn’t do anything out onto the streets

that’s april 21st to 24th for any answerbankers who read this and might consider going… it’s called “The Big One” if you want to google it!

[tomus42]

Seriously, the match will be delayed a day max, all tickets will be valid or refunded, everyone present will enjoy telling the story for months to come, the protestor will be sentenced for criminal damage, and the cause got publicity (mostly bad). I'm not seeing a downside in any of this.

[bobbinwales]

yes I might go untitled - i'll drive a few hundred miles each way to watch. But hold on....

[Ellipsis]

> there’s an absolutely huge protest planned in London from april 21st to 24th… the aim of actions like this is to get that section of the population which agrees with them but doesn’t do anything out onto the streets

Perhaps the reason that "that section of the population which agrees with them but doesn’t do anything out onto the streets" doesn't join with these people is precisely because they hate the methods of these people. You can be sympathetic to their cause, but not their methods and, therefore, not them.

[Aircooledfool]

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So any bunch of delude weirdos who’s latch onto a cause (defined by themselves) can commit acts of vandalism , just because they have aright to protest??? How is that right then?

[Untitled]

for some that is doubtless true… others are afraid or just need a bit of a push.

[Untitled]

i would humbly suggest that causes are not made equal!

[Aircooledfool]

Don’t understand your thinking here
The question is really about people who commit criminal acts in the name of protest ( think about the Colston statue debacle in Bristol) and not getting any appropriate form of punishment from our society. The act of vandalism is still a crime, attaching it to a “cause” does not exonerate those who do it. Telling that the the judges will likely fall on deaf ears

[jourdain2]

For Goodness' Sake - these people have to be a)nuts and b) well 'nuts' covers it.

What did they expect would be achieved?
OK, it's been reported and they got publicity - but so far as I can see it is negative publicity. I suppose some youngsters may think they were heroic. Most people are just fed up of them and likely to turn against their cause.

[ynnafymmi]

I will bet that these upper middle-class aerosols(just like the aerosols at the Grand National)have never done a days work in their useless,sponging off the state,sponging off their upper middle-class parents(or mumsie and popsie,as these aerosols call them)lives.

[Ellipsis]

The Colston statue being dunked in the water was at least directly relevant to the issue.

Throwing orange powder onto a green baize is not directly relevant, it's just vandalism to get publicity ... they might as well have spray painted a cock and balls on the baize.

[Aircooledfool]

That’s would have been at least a bit amusing, to us vulgar plebs anyway

[New Judge]

//...anyone who doesn’t currently agree about the climate change issue is frankly impossible to convince because the evidence is so strong…//

Then leave it at that then. Why should one view prevail over another by means of such disruption? Surely far better to spend time, effort and money devising ways to cope with a changing climate than to try to force people into taking action that has absolutely no chance of success. It is simply a case that the views of the protesters are inviolable as far as they are concerned. It is arrogant, selfish and insulting.

[Untitled]

I think I answered that already newjudge... it isn't intended to "convert" people it is intended to mobilise them

the thing that cannot really be escaped with these protestors is that they are right.

"The act of vandalism is still a crime, attaching it to a “cause” does not exonerate those who do it."

i have not suggested that it does... these actions are criminal acts and are undertaken by people who know that they are criminal acts and choose to expose themselves to the consequences... nor do i think it should be otherwise - if i were on the calston jury i would have found them guilty... but what is criminal and what is right are two very different things....

[New Judge]

//...the thing that cannot really be escaped with these protestors is that they are right.//

Well so successful is their campaign that, along with the righteousness, I've actually lost sight of what it is they are protesting about and what they'd like to see done. I know the general idea, but the detail is lost. Perhaps you can enlighten me. As you do, perhaps you could explain what the (realistic) alternatives are to the activities they want stopped.

[Ellipsis]

> these actions are criminal acts and are undertaken by people who know that they are criminal acts and choose to expose themselves to the consequences

I would understand, at least a bit more, if the criminal act was directly to do with "stopping oil". But playing snooker ... it's just wanton, selfish vandalism and I would not now want to have a part with such people on a protest in London, even if I did before.