Brexit Conversation

[lady-janine]

Whilst I was out today I overheard some people discussing the amount of sewage being discharged and affecting bathing on Cornish beaches (80% of beaches reckoned to be affected in Cornwall) and this group were agreeing it was the fault of leaving the EU.

Has anyone any comment on this?

[bobbinwales]

Any blame on this should be on our goverment not Brexit...its upto the public to say we want a change of goverment

[retrocop]

I have tried to find the story I read several years ago.This is part of the story from another source . It is regarding overcrowding without the means to cope with extra human waste.


//German government officials have compelled a small town with just 102 people to take in approximately 750 migrants from Syria and other countries, The New York Times wrote Saturday.

Sumte, a small town at the western fringe of the former East Germany, was informed earlier this month by its municipal government that it had been assigned to accept over a thousand of the asylum seekers that have poured into Germany over the course of 2015. The number was so high that mayor Christian Fabel first thought it was a joke, but after a storm of local protest, the figure was lowered to 750, not out of sympathy but because it was believed a thousand would overwhelm the town’s sewage system.//

[lady-janine]

I expect it is the same all over the country but so many thousands of new homes are being built and so many immigrants are entering the country and I have yet to hear of new sewers and sewage treatment areas and new reservoirs being built. Obviously a recipe for disaster.

[ToraToraTora]

what a load of sheet! Literally it seems. This is to do with infrastructure not being able to cope when it buckets down in certain areas. End of.

[douglas9401]

If you see Sid, tell 'im.

Etc.

[Old_Geezer]

Changes in legislation, or in government tolerance of such things, contact your MP. Or renationalisation, again contact your MP.

[Gromit]

It is a result of Privatisation.
Leaving the EU means we no longer have to comply with their clean bathing waters regulations. So that is why there are now more effluent being pumped into our seas and rivers.
The Government could impose stronger laws than the EU ones we had, but they won’t.

[ToraToraTora]

gromit is correct on this.

[Hymie]

This is what we have got having left the EU.

TTT would argue that I could write to my MP demanding the government take action on this appalling situation.

If my MP was to reply, he would likely point out that the local water company had given him a bung of £10,000 and the hospitality of a private box for every home game of the Premiership team he supports - but regrets that by taking no action he might lose my vote.
But that’s the way politics operates in the UK.

[ToraToraTora]

hymie; "TTT would argue that I could write to my MP demanding the government take action on this appalling situation. " - then you have learnt nothing from our interactions on here. I have never advocating writing to anyone about anything ever. Not my style and history has shown it doesn't work. I do however understand why the water companies are pumping sewage out, because they are allowed to. Gromit is correct this is ultimately about privatisation, a policy I agreed with for some things, not for utilities. Here we see the inevitable result. Money is given to share holders rather than the public infrastructure. I will concede to you that brexit has effectively relaxed some rules to make it easier for them to do that but essentially the conditions have always been there when the primary function is generating income for shareholders then corners will be cut elsewhere.

[Hymie]

If our MPs won’t listen to what their constituents want (and where necessary pass laws to achieve the desired result) – what was the point of Brexit; it certainly cannot be sovereignty?

[ToraToraTora]

The 2 things are not related. MPs mostly have no power anyway, all most of them do is stand up once a week and make a tawt of themselves in PMQS.