More Deluded Fools.......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66822717

You just never know and when the dog is potential killer this kind of blind trust is madness. How many times do we hear of previously placid dogs suddenly attacking someone?

[10ClarionSt]

As I've said before on here; just remember, that cuddly doggy thingy in your living room is descended from a wolf.

[barry1010]

Any dog can get very suddenly very aggressive - in my dog's case it was a symptomless brain tumour, no sign of sickness or pain. 

It can simply be having a bad day, or hear a sound that jangles its nerves, or it could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.  

[barry1010]

I meant to say that photo of the dog with the child turned my blood cold

[choux]

TTT, did you see this report?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12524419/How-dog-walker-savaged-death-Surrey-beauty-spot-pounced-giant-pit-bull-rescued-weeks-DAVID-JONES-reveals.html

Blind faith can cost lives...

[Ken4155]

My previous dog was the most placid and loving creature i have ever known but when we went outside for a smoke - never smoked in front of the kids - we ensured an adult remained with the dog and child/children. It's just common sense.

That said, i would never have a dog whose strength and size was more than i could handle. Again, common sense.

[woofas]

We hear about so called responsible owners, so lets make them truly responsible! If any animal kills a human, charge the owner with manslaughter. If injured then charge them with bodily harm at the appropriate level.

 

[bednobs]

i think the owner of the one that killed this week has been charged with manslaughter

 

[Gromit]

// i think the owner of the one that killed this week has been charged with manslaughter //

Don't think anyone was killed this week, so no manslaughter charge. The one in the news recently was the 11 year old girl attacked, which was filmed by a passenger on a bus. That attack is what sparked the debate and the ban.

[Canary42]

What an awfully chilling picture.  Some folk are just too stupid to rear children.

[Gromit]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/15/17/75475009-12522917-Pictured_These_are_the_dogs_believed_to_have_been_involved_in_th-a-3_1694797022576.jpg
 

These 2 dogs killed a man on Wednesday. Pictured here with the owners' toddler.

[Barsel]

Gromit why did you post that no one was killed this week when you know a man was killed on Wednesday?

[Gromit]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/15/17/75474961-12522917-Another_picture_of_the_dogs_alleged_to_have_attacked_Mr_Price_ac-a-4_1694797022579.jpg
 

[Barsel]

Someone could own one of these dogs, like the woman in the picture, and that dog may never attack her or her children, but it doesn't mean that if the woman or child were approached by someone in the street the dog wouldn't go for them.

 

[Gromit]

Barsel

Because I only just found out about Wednesdays attack. The report I just read said the dogs are being tested to confirm the breed.

[fender62]

the the mother is insane to trust this breed, that child is lunch to that dog or a rag doll, only take seconds... and you can imagine the horror, muzzle law outside erm what about inside what about in the garden if it decides to destroy the fence to escape, total madness.

[Peter Pedant]

Gromit why did you post that no one was killed this week when you know a man was killed on Wednesday?

1758 Dr Johnson was asked why he had defined a pastern as a horse's ankle when everyone knows that is the stifle. - er in his famous dictionary that I am sure I dont need to mention

He answered sheer ignorance ma'am

[anneasquith]

I have the most mild mannered pleasant dog he follows me everywhere. But I would never leave my grandchildren alone with him. They have been educated in how to handle dogs.

[Peter Pedant]

that cuddly doggy thingy in your living room is descended from a wolf.

is a wolf - 100 % correspondence DNA. Nature ( big boys science journal) has had a few papers on this.

You can age DNA mutations - if one is AAAAA and another AAAAAB it kinda occurred last week. If the second is AAACB - then it occurred longer ago

and if the gene duplicates, and one is AAAAB and the other is now AABCB you can estimate when the split occurred.

28 000 y - when wolves and dargs diverged - lastest paper from China.

The dog is a wolf-like canid. The genetic divergence between the dog's ancestor and modern wolves occurred between 40,000 and 30,000 years ago, just before or during the Last Glacial Maximum (20,000–27,000 years ago).

the F1 geneation ( first filial generation) of a wolf-dog cross is fertile. Bit Darwinian, showing they are the same species

[david small]

The innocent will be condemned along with the potentially guilty.

Mandatory muzzling this breeding disaster may prevent  further incidents.