The Princes In The Tower: The New Evidence

[naomi24]

//Did Richard III kill his nephews? Philippa Langley [the lady who, with her team, discovered the skeleton of Richard III under a car park in Leicester] and Rob Rinder explore new discoveries and examine the truth about the fate of the princes in the tower.//

 

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-princes-in-the-tower-the-new-evidence

 

For those who like history, this is utterly intriguing.  Dragged out a bit I felt, but well worth watching.

[Canary42]

So,  what was the final verdict ?

[naomi24]

It appears not, Canary.  

[Canary42]

Thank you Naomi 

 

[New Judge]

The final "conclusion" arrived at by Judge Rinder was that the remains buried beneath th etower of London were not those of the Princes and that they had both survived, fled and assumed new identities:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12761443/Bombshell-new-evidence-proves-Princes-Tower-given-inside-help-escape-Richard-III.html

"Her findings indicate that Edward and Richard, the Duke of York, assumed the identities of Lambert Simnel and Perkin Warbeck, who are long known to have launched failed attempts to depose Henry VII in the late 15th century."

The late Queen refused permission for the remains in the Tower to be tested for DNA and it is unlikley that would have reveald very much anyway. 

[Barmaid]

It did drag out a bit and there was far too much of PL and RR driving through the countryside.  

For me, it still left many questions unanswered.  Whilst there were definitely some intriguing documentary evidence from Europe, authored by people who clearly believed they were dealing with Ed V or his brother, Richard, I couldn't help thinking that a good imposter could have fooled them too.

Nothing that was shown (in my view) leads to proving it either way.  I think the new evidence might throw doubt on the long held belief that the princes were murdered, but I am still un-persuaded.  

Having said that, I have always leaned towards H VII (or his mother Margaret Beaufort) as being the baddy in this.  Although I imagine had he done away with them it might have prompted some difficult conversations with his wife (their sister).

[naomi24]

All in all I found this quite convincing.   Fascinating in fact.  Bearing in mind Prince Philip gave dna when the bodies of the Romanovs were discovered, I wonder if the late queen refused testing in this instance either because she suspected the true history - or because she knew it?  I'd hazard a guess that the royal archives conceal a few dark secrets.

[james412]

I remember a Lucy Worsley investigation where she concluded that RIII did have them killed.

[naomi24]

James, new evidence in the form of documentation, confirmed to date from the time, has been discovered.