I go to a social club on Friday night and there is a guy there who drinks orange tango that's it, he's an alcoholic, sober for over 20 years but still an alcoholic. He's stronger that I would be, no way I could go to a drinking establishment if I wanted to get sober. He has 2 businesses and wonderful house, wife and daughter, he's said to me several times that when he was drinking he never dreamed he'd have those he was just waiting to die. He hasn't told me how he dug himself out of it yet.