Labour U Turn On Green Investments

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Not in power and the flip flopping starts.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68244772

[ToraToraTora]

As I said the other day, I think Sir Beer and co have realised they may lose few Thubergistas but the rest of us know what total folly all the "net zero" row locks. Credit where it's due I think this was the right thing to do.

[ToraToraTora]

There is also an element of realisation that they may actually have to implement some the things they've been spouting when they didn't think they'd ever get into no 10.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - I think that's a very shrewd and accurate observation. 

Jeremy Corbyn used to make the most outlandish claims about what Labour would do when elected, knowing that he had more chance of winning Muss World than he had of winning an election.

It's easy to make promises when you can be certain you will never have to deliver on them.

What Sir Keir has finally realised, is that the electorate are not remotely interested in rich politicians' obsessions with creating misery to fail in their pointless 'Net Zero' piffle.

If you want people to vote for you, tell them you will spend those billions in reducing their energy bills today, instead of dreaming about an unachievable tomorrow. 

Mr Sunak had better wake up to that message as well, if he is thinking about trying to save his government from total humiliation. 

It's not difficult.

Stop listening to wealthy suits with vested interests in energy companies, and Starr listening to people who can't heat their homes and feed their children at the same time.

It's their goodwill you need - their votes are your future 

[fender62]

labour..what shambles, i like when one of them says..oh it's been costed, let alone all this trans debate, and the migrant fiasco, surely the migrant invasion is a national security emergency, you would think under the circumstances, no vetoes by courts let alone the echr and other treaties, would be put on a hiatus until the debacle is dealt with, all illegals deported regardless of there countries human rights record, no i don't care 1 iota, half of afghanistan seems to have worked for the british..yea sure...

[tomus42]

Surely the time to flip flop is when you're not in power?

Isn't that just called honesty?

No-one has to vote for them. We still have a choice based on what they've said.

[JACKSON-REACHER]

The Tories in 2019 got elected on a policy of net zero. 
They pledged it and then did the opposite. They lied to the electorate.

At least Labour are going into the next General Ekection, saying they won't support green policies, and the electorate can decide  honestly.

[Canary42]

If Labour are a shambles, then at least its harmless as they're not in power.  The Tory shambles has harmed the country immeasurably (Brexit, Truss, cost of living crisis, NHS waiting lists, energy prices, etc.) 

[Deskdiary]

I posted the other day that I have some admiration for them ditching an unachievable policy.

 

My admiration has waned somewhat when they blamed the Tories for them having to ditch it.

[Paul22118]

I am basically a Tory voter who has become disenchanted with the way this governments policies have been watered down, altered or abandoned - sometimes with sensible reason. But as the GE draws closer the choice staring me in the face is whether to stick with what I, in the main, prefer or swing to Labour.

I look at what the Labour side will look like if they win and I see Keir Starmer on the step of number ten waving and grinning, Angela Rainer rubbing her hands with glee, the elfin like Yvette taking a mouth full of sour lemons and I wake up and realise it was a nightmare.

Back in the day I voted for Blair the first time.  I feel that it was right then to change. The Torys had run out of ideas. Today I don't feel that, but the spectere of what I have described says to my brain 'Don't do it'.

[10ClarionSt]

This decision shows strong and decisive leadership. On the issue, Labour were damned if they do, now they're damned if they don't. 

I think people need reminding that the Tory govt paid out nearly twice this amount in fraudulent Covid Business Grants, money that has never been recovered.

[andy-hughes]

10Clarion - // On the issue, Labour were damned if they do, now they're damned if they don't. //

Actually, no they're not.

They can't 'do' because they are not in power, they can only say what they will 'do' when the are in power.

So they are not damned for 'doing' because they haven't done anything.

They are damned for saying they will 'do', backing it, emphisising it, backing it again, assuring everyone how vital it is, assuring us they will not abandon it, and then abandoning it a day later.

That is what they are castigated for, and quite rightly so.

If the party that is quite possibly heading for power can't get its policies sorted out before they are in power, it does not bode well for when, and if, they are in power.

So a little robust criticism for blatent flip-flopping is entirely in order.

[10ClarionSt]

AH jumps on the "damned" bandwagon. It took balls to make this decision. It was tough, for sure, but necessary. People will see that.

[andy-hughes]

10Clarion - I'm not 'jumping on anything. 

Sir Keir has form for vague policies and switching with the wind.

It doesn't take courage to do something when the entire motivation for doing it is based on your dreams of your own personal political future.