Car Drivers To Bailout Cash Strapped Local Councils - Is Yours On The List?

[Hymie]

Apparently 85 out of 152 councils have applied for the powers that will allow them to collect fines from drivers for infractions such as entering bus lanes, making illegal U-turns and not following the rules when entering junction-boxes.

 

There is a junction-box close to where I live; I could count the number of times I have observed vehicles obeying the rules at this box on the fingers of one hand – lots of money to be made there.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13213979/Councils-wage-war-motorists-half-drivers-face-fines-cash-strapped-local-authorities-entering-yellow-boxes-making-illegal-U-turns-travelling-bus-lanes-new-powers-town-halls.html

[Old_Geezer]

So simple solutions are rarely valid. (Even if one ignored the inevitable state created where authorities can apply any unreasonable demand and force their wagepayers to honour it. A slippery slope.)

 

I know from experience that one can get in a bus lane without knowing, upon realising changing immediately but already photographed; and when appealing, stating that the lane wasn't clearly mark by colour or paint at entry, and how the small hidden signs were utterly inadequate, find that their absolutely hilarious, drawer wetting response was send pictures of the aforementioned utterly inadequate sign as some sort of justification. The scumbags !

 

Furthermore, box junctions are unnecessary as no reasonable person deliberately stops on one anyway: but on any busy main road traffic will only move efficiently by judging the traffic immediately ahead will clear the box. You can't get traffic flowing if every car stops dead to check before proceeding. So occasionally some good decent driver misjudges, and the dregs then fine them. Or worse you may find you had a space but as you cross some bad driver cuts across from their lane to take your space leaving you high & dry. This is an utterly ridiculous situation and clearly the whole action from the council is simply creating a society no sane individual would want. And yet councils are supposed to be working FOR the people not trying to abuse them.

[ToraToraTora]

doug: "It's just what happens when you make motoring available to the great unwashed though Tora, innit." - absolutely doug, far too cheap, WSS can afford personal private transport. Societally that must be wrong.

[ToraToraTora]

OG: "I know from experience that one can get in a bus lane without knowing," - what the words "BUS LANE" every 20 yards and an 8 inch wide solid line on the right didn't give it away? If you are missing that you should not be driving me old china.

[ToraToraTora]

OG: "Furthermore, box junctions are unnecessary as no reasonable person deliberately stops on one anyway: " - sadly they do, I see it every day as I walk to work past this busy junction and it its regularly blocked by several eejits in a yellow box. (the yellow box is fairly new BTW)

[ToraToraTora]

OG: "You can't get traffic flowing if every car stops dead to check before proceeding" - you are allowed to look before you arrive, no one is suggesting an emergency stop. It is easy to see if your exit is clear from a long way back.

[Hymie]

Many junction boxes are three car lengths or more in length – therefore traffic flowing through the box must have at least this spacing (plus 1 vehicle length) between all vehicles, if they are obeying the rules.  This leads to a significant reduction in traffic flow, where junction boxes are longer than necessary.