If Their Claims Were True.

[sandyRoe]

What would be the relationship between the natural son of King Charles and the unacknowledged son of Princess Margaret?

[10ClarionSt]

Cousins of some kind, I should think.

[naomi24]

Who is that?

[bhg481]

Charles and the other boy are sons of two sisters, hence they are cousins.

[10ClarionSt]

Who is that? Wasn't it someone who once lived in Kenya? There was a fuss about her going "off piste" in a walk-about on a tour there, as she wanted to see a small boy. People reckoned he was her son.

[sandyRoe]

There is, or was, a poor deluded man who claimed to be the son of Princess Margaret.  Probably suffering from the same illness that the man claiming to be Charles' son endures.

[davebro3]

the son of a cousin is a "cousin once removed"

[douglas9401]

I suspect he'd be harried by the press.

[bhg481]

davebro is right - Charles and the boy are cousins, so a child of Charles and the boy are cousins once removed due to the generation gap. Children of the boy and children of Charles would be second cousins.

[naomi24]

Thanks Clarion.  I've never heard of him - nor of anyone claiming to be Charles' illegitimate son.

[davebro3]

//nor of anyone claiming to be Charles' illegitimate son.//

I think it's the other way round?

[naomi24]

dave, //Probably suffering from the same illness that the man claiming to be Charles' son endures.//

[Peter Pedant]

half-cousins -  but try looking it up on the internet and  you get a real pigs ear

 

[Peter Pedant]

Probably suffering from the same illness that the man claiming to be Charles' son endures.

well they have their own mutation for Porphyria ( which has NOT died out. Prince Richard of Gloucester ( plane crasher) had it)

( but not having it does NOT exclude royal blood, 50% will be free of it)

[sandyRoe]

Was that responsible for the madness of King George?

 

Cost us the American Colonies?

[Peter Pedant]

Yes. AIP - this is VERY technical for AB and we will get the 'helpers' down our necks

The thingo was.... the skin rash wasnt THAT obvious. So... they dug up one of Victoria's cousins that died in a mad-house and found.... AIP ( new but not private) mutation.

THEN someone came forward and said - oh plane crasher had it as well, but  no one  said. 

and so yes - the er look-back involved George III - the madness of King George ( very accurately) retells the Regency crisis of 1788. Alan  Bennet eaves ( yes weaves darling) a thread of 20 century sentiment thro the script. Everyone who witnesses the kings madness gets fired

and of course 1787 isnt 1783. And the King did not have conduct of that war.

er better end before the Erinyes arrive

[Peter Pedant]

ooh and James VI and I - BUT in those days almost everyone had haematuria ( this is not gonna last) so discoloured urine was not a good sign 1500-1600

ooh and it doesnt die out ( porphyria ) but persists and this is called the founder effect.

"A founder effect is when a small isolated population of settlers (founders) expands over several generations leading to a high prevalence of a genetic trait. Most individuals with Variegate Porphyria in South Africa carry the same PPOX mutation and are descendents of a Dutch settler from the late 1600s."

I think is wrong: that is the bottle neck effect - and the profusion of cases is  because under these circs, Darwin does not apply