How Many Onn Here Thinkthis Is Acceptable?

[youngmafbog]

Farage was splattered with milkshake today.

I'm pretty sure I know who will be so come on admit it.  The left always get violent when no argument.  She should be arrested, charged with assault and fined regardless of what (any) politican wants to happen.

Personally I deplore such actions against any politian and before the usual start I was right behind 2 Jabs when he was attacked - look it up if you dont believe me.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

[naomi24]

Hymie, No.  Whoever authorised the bombs to be dropped would be responsible.  Let me put it this way.  As far as I recall the original idea for the NHS didn't come from Labour - but Labour takes credit for it because a Labour government implemented it.  Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend?

[Ellipsis]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/With_great_power_comes_great_responsibility

"With great power comes great responsibility" is a proverb popularized by Spider-Man in Marvel comics, films, and related media. ... The idea — similar to the 1st century BC parable of the Sword of Damocles and the medieval principle of noblesse oblige — is that power cannot simply be enjoyed for its privileges alone but necessarily makes its holders morally responsible both for what they choose to do with it and for what they fail to do with it.

[New Judge]

“Farage said this,

"In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it."

But there’s one big difference, Corby.

Had the result been to remain, nothing would have had to be done to secure it; there would have been no debate in Parliament about how it would be achieved; nobody (inside or outside Parliament) could have prevented it. Mr Cameron would have appeared on the steps of No10 the next morning, all smiles, to say “That’s it. The people have spoken. The UK’s place is in the EU.” (or similar).  No government action would be necessary; no Parliamentary procedures would be required; no court action could have thwarted the government’s aim. 

We would have simply retained the status quo and there would have been no debate about how “soft” or “hard” the “Remain” would be. Although the Leave side might have continued to campaign, their position would have been very much weakened and there would be no suggestion that the “Remain” might be “soft” so as to appease disappointed Leavers.

In short, nothing would have changed and we would all (with the possible exception of Mr Farage and his mates) have largely forgotten about it by now, thinking maybe the question should be put again in about ten years time, perhaps before or after all or most of the current candidate nations (Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Serbia, Turkey, Ukraine) and the one possible candidate (Kosovo) have joined. Which is somewhat in contrast to the tiresome campaign waged by disappointed Remainers.

"Mr. Farage now wants the UK to leave the ECHR, I take it that he would in no way be responsible for what happens should we be stupid enough to do what he wants?"

That word again, which you seemingly cannot resist.

Lots of other people, by no means all of them stupid, have a similar take to Mr Farage. Personally I think it’s an excellent idea. The ECHR has outlived its usefulness and there is nothing in it for the UK. This country has adequate protection for all its citizens against all the rights the ECHR provides, not least because our own Human Rights Act near enough mirrors it. The only “right” that would be lost is for people who feel they have been mistreated to appeal to a supranational court whose judges are principally not UK citizens. Apart from that, perhaps you could let us all know what protections you believe would be lost if we quit the ECHR. Here they all are:

The right to life (Article 2)
Freedom from torture (Article 3)
Freedom from slavery (Article 4)
The right to liberty (Article 5)
The right to a fair trial (Article 6)
The right not to be punished for something that wasn’t against the law at the time (Article 7)
The right to respect for family and private life (Article 8)
Freedom of thought, conscience and religion (Article 9)
Freedom of expression (Article 10)
Freedom of assembly (Article 11)
The right to marry and start a family (Article 12)
The right not to be discriminated against in respect of these rights (Article 14)
The right to protection of property (Protocol 1, Article 1)
The right to education (Protocol 1, Article 2)
The right to participate in free elections (Protocol 1, Article 3)
The abolition of the death penalty (Protocol 13)

So which of those do you suggest would be lost?

[Khandro]

Great post N.J. 

[Khandro]

I could add that the ECHR and indeed the EU itself is not now what Britain signed up to. This is a fascinating account of what incrementally happened;

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v43/n01/perry-anderson/ever-closer-union

 

[Deskdiary]

I must admit I do take pleasure from the sidelines seeing Hymie get well and truly trounced every single time on all things Brexit, and that's coming from somebody who voted Remain (I suppose the difference being I respect democracy even when it doesn't go my way. I may not like it, but I don't whine about it).

[Clone]

They've moved on from milkshakes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmjj1n030djo

 

Jail him.

[Mozz71]

"I will not be bullied or cowed by a violent left-wing mob who hate our country."

 

Has he hired Tora as his speechwriter?

[Khandro]

Common assault is when a person inflicts violence on someone else or makes them think they are going to be attacked. It does not have to involve physical violence. Threatening words or a raised fist is enough for the crime to have been committed provided the victim thinks that they are about to be attacked. Spitting at someone is another example.

The maximum penalty for assault is five years & this guy should get it. An example must be made before this stupidity gets out of hand.