Letby And Sharif

[smurfchops]

Unbelievable.  How is this allowed?
https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/14/sara-sharifs-stepmum-strikes-prison-friendship-lucy-letby-22190140/

[newmodarmy]

What's the problem? 

[Bazile]

Did I hear the other day that one of the doctors who gave evidence has now changed his mind .

I hope this does not turnout to be another miscarriage of justice 

[Old_Geezer]

Should they both be in isolation ?

[pastafreak]

Bazile, it's been discussed in the news quite a bit over the past several months. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgwx9xprwqo

[jackthehat]

As they are both in prison, on the same wing, I can't see any problem with them associating with each other.

[newmodarmy]

I wouldn't be surprised if Letby appeals successfuly at some stage in the future.  I heard a respected statistician explaining the flawed nature of some key statistics, and that whilst Letyby was present when X % of incidents occurrred, so were lots of other people.

Ok, it's off topic as this is more about Sharif, but I don't know what rues you could put in place about who can become friends with whom. The prisons are full of criminals. End of, as someone says

[Peter Pedant]

Did I hear the other day that one of the doctors who gave evidence has now changed his mind .

yes you did ( and I shuddered - GMC time for him etc)

and he has denied he has recanted ( yes I know implied double negative) and said he never said that

Dr Dewi Davies

The defence doctor declined to give evidence as it was said on the street - he cd not support his clients story

 

[Khandro]

Many people, including of all things The New Yorker, have cast doubt on her conviction. Even mathematicians have challenged the 'compelling' evidence.

I personally feel there are grounds for a re-examination of this case.

[Peter Pedant]

I would have said it should be encouraged as it means there is less violence. Prisons being what they are

[Peter Pedant]

This didnt happen with Beverley Allitt - BUT - didnt she do shifts where the patients started dying ? ( classical  pattern, Toronto 1976)

[Peter Pedant]

I heard a respected statistician explaining the flawed nature of some key statistics,

I heard some statistician and thought he was saying " I want to earn a few bob by being a defence expert" it is not an exact science

and if you have one death a month average ( 12 a year) and then one month there are three - is that significant? You should certainly investigate ( which I dont think they did). *f you have six in a month and do nothiing, you are risking your career. 

and not say - "oh this is a variation which is quite common actually so go back to your coffee"

[Peter Pedant]

Oh air embolism

If you x ray a baby who has died suddently and there is air in the veins ( which  you can see, even medical students are trained to spot it) then someone has injected air

so now the issue is - someone is killing the babies the question is who?

[Peter Pedant]

One unrelated case

mercury from an old thermometer ended up in a  dead patients axilla ( easily seen on X ray)