Bad News For Waspi Women

[barry1010]

The Parliamentary & Health Service Ombudsman recommended compensatary payouts to the women affected by the changes in pension - the government and DWP have decided to ignore it.

What is the point of the Ombudsman if the governing bodies can choose to ignore them?

Sad day for many women

 

[Untitled]

//Published research, which is referenced by the Ombudsman in their report, also shows that 73% of women aged 45-54 said that they were aware of State Pension age increases in 2004. By 2006, 90% of 1950s-born women knew about State Pension age changes. //

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/response-to-phso-report-on-communication-of-changes-to-womens-state-pension-age
 

i think many of these people are being a bit deceptive when they say they weren't informed. what they actually want is unequal retirement benefits in their favour.

zero sympathy. absolutely none.

[newmodarmy]

I'm surprised no men's groups ever claimed compensation for having to wait until 65 when  women got theirs at 60

[youngmafbog]

Yet another electioneering promise dumped.

Pensioners are second rate citizens to this load of communists.

[DDIL]

When was the ombudsman report published please.

[Maydup]

Whether we agree with the Waspi campaign or not, this government supported it wholeheartedly when in opposition. Rachel Reeve and Liz Kendall have both betrayed them.

“This injustice can’t go on. I have been a longstanding supporter of the Waspi campaign.” Liz Kendall 2019

[Maydup]

https://www.ombudsman.org.uk/publications/womens-state-pension-age-our-findings-department-work-and-pensions-communication-0

[Untitled]

keir starmer was cheered on by much of the UK press and by some on Answerbank for breaking all of the promises he made to the left in order to become leader of the opposition. he was referred to as "sensible" and "pragmatic" for ditching all of his leadership positions... it is the principal reason i did not vote labour in the last election. 
 

well now he's broken another promise and kept a habit that he was praised for when mainstream opinion agreed with it. you can't have it both ways. 

[DDIL]

So it looks like the final report was issued in March 24, all the sound bites that are floating around are they after March 24 or before.

Is it possible that given the final report they realise that there was nothing that they could do?

[rowanwitch]

Sorry late coming back... If I had been told the full facts I would have taken up the option of a partial return to work for a few years.  But the information available in the early stages was so vague as to be useless.   Once the full facts were available( you don't get your pension date until about 18 months before you become eligible)  I looked at part time work but by that time I had the effects of rheumatoid arthritis in my hands so even keyboard based work was not an option.  I already had significant mobility impairment, clinical depression and asthma) 

Also the lower retirement age for women took into account a number of factors not least being the average age gaps between men and women who were married, the idea being they would retire at similar times so they could care for one another.  

At the time these issues were first raised all the talk was about raising the retirement age for women and lowering the age for men. Hence my union reps suggestion that it was likely to be 63 across the board.  

The reason there is so much anger is we started work on the understanding that we would receive our state pension at age 60 and retire.  It should have been addressed far earlier, at the point at which people entered the workforce, so maybe on the 1980s you would start work knowing you would retire at 62, in the 1990s at 64,  etc. 

  I have heard it described as a contract between the worker and the state, and in truth a full state pension was often the only incentive for lower paid workers to continue working when benefits were so close in real value.

[bednobs]

it's not like £1000 - £3000 will put these people in the position they thought they were going to be in when they thought they were retiring at 60, so it's hardly compensation, just a nugatory "sorry" gesture (which everyone will pay for)

[newmodarmy]

I don't agree rowanwitch and nor does the government but it's a judgement as there's no clear right or wrong. I just never understood the waspi case and still dont but those directly affected may see it differently

[rowanwitch]

The real financial losses  were never going to be covered, and that is understandable.  The recommended awards were going to be allocated in relation to hardship experienced, it's unlikely many would have proof enough to get the highest level.  TBH an apology  at the time we became aware of how  much we would be affected might have been enough for many.  

[bednobs]

I am like NMA in that I have no dog in the fight, however I can't see that as anyone else's fault that you were badly advised. If you were able to work because of illness when you're 60 anyway you would have had to leave work earlier whatever pension arrangements were in place I presume

[bednobs]

And I just realised Rowan how miserable that sounded sorry. As I am not in this position I have no idea how it feels

[Old_Geezer]

Yell NMA, if any men did they'd just be sneered at and told to 'man up', if that was what they were.

[pastafreak]

I remember back when I was still working, my then manager learning that she had a good few more years until her retirement rather than the 1 she thought she had. This was around 2018-19...even I knew about it. I can clearly remember her shock.

[pastafreak]

I noticed last week that the government is promising further increases in the retirement age over the next few years.

[DDIL]

The current level of pension is not sustainable.

[ynnafymmi]

Not if i would gain from it,but it seems the Labour Party has a grudge against the older members of society.Is it because a majority of them vote against Labour?

[bednobs]

how so ynna?