Reform Gaining Huge Numbers Of Votes From Labour.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1991892/nigel-farage-prime-minister-reform-uk-polls-labour

It's quite possible that reform could merge with the real tories that remain and become the new tories with the wet trobiscites etc joining the Lib non dems/greens etc.

Interesting times, who'd have thought that Labour would squander a huge majority so quickly?

[brainiac]

Hope so - only way to get rid of the Starmer crew

[bookbinder]

Labour should have spelt out, right from the beginning, exactly what the Tories did to get us in the hole where we now are. Labour should then have said what they are going to do to rectify things. The voters might then have been able to accept what Labour was asking them to do/tolerate/put up with.

[cassa333]

Ithink Labour only got in because they aren't Tories.

I was having a conversation with my son not long after the election and he asked why I prefer Tory and now reform considering the mess Tories have us in.

I said it's not that I'm against SOME of Labour policies it's just that compared to Tories they bollax it up quicker. They both bollax it up but Labour do it quicker and usually more spectacularly.

Labour in particular (but both do it) listen to the loudest voices and have no real concept of what the majority think.

The UK and US at the moment think anything right of left is ult right. That's simply not the case. 
 

Popularism has risen across the west because the left have shouted in the faces of the majority of too long and they are fed up with it.

[Canary42]

Too few people these days remember the rabble-rouser of 1930s Germany and what that led to.

I grieve for my country (and yes, *** Starmer must take a lot of the blame).

[ToraToraTora]

14:43 on July 4th we were the strongest growing economy in the G7, liftiing out of multiple crises. Labour have trashed that and we are now entering recession, high inflation and high interest rates.

[fiveleaves]

We beat Fascism in WW2 and we can do it again. However people do need to wake up quickly.

The only way to defeat Farage is to fully stand up to him and not fall for his bluster

[davebro3]

Are you saying Reform is a fascist party? Have you read their manifesto?

[naomi24]

I think many see Mr Farage as a beacon of hope for this country because he's saying what they're thinking.  More power to his elbow!!

[ToraToraTora]

fiveleaves: "We beat Fascism in WW2 and we can do it again. However people do need to wake up quickly." - indeed we are in the midst of a neo fascim and that needs sorting.

[david small]

Too little too late. Voters made their bed, and Labour lies upon it.

[New Judge]

The trouble is, there are 4.5 years to go before his awful shower can be ejected and bar somehing extraordinary happening we are stuck with them until then. Whatever the polls show in the meantime is meaningless.

In the meantime they have virtually care blanche to do exactly as they wish. I don' normally care too much o endure a brief period of a Labour government. But I do this time. My two big worries are continued unfettered immigration - both illegal and legal (and the adverse effects that will have on everybody here) and the lunatic Miliband and his "Net Zero" mania - which in my view has taken him in the form of a mental illness. 

Either will virtually destroy this country as a reasonably pleasant place to live and both together will bankrupt it (which it virtually is anyway).

It's unforunate that we have to put up with this every ten or twenty years. The idea of writing things down is so that those who come later can learn from previous mistakes. It doesn't seem to work with politics. People always vote Labour thinking "it will be different this time." It never is (well, unless it's worse than usual, which this episode clearly is).

Much of the blame lies with the previous lot of TINOs.They deserved what they got. But the rest of us didn't.

[Deskdiary]

3.15pm - are you saying Farage is a fascist?

 

In the thread posted below you referred to "Farage's racist crap..."

 

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Politics/Question1884213.html 

 

Can you provide examples* of his fascism and his "racist crap", or is it you just simply don't like him?

 

*You won't be able to.

[max137]

The left tried that with Trump didn't work out to well.

[tommy39]

no need to merge.it is obvious labour do not have a plan

[naomi24]

^What's that? Self-destruction?

[Peter Pedant]

with the wet trobiscites etc joining the Lib non dems/greens etc.

remind me who these are - foo danga-lang boop boop!

[Peter Pedant]

Can you provide examples* of his fascism and his "racist crap"

nope he doesnt have to

In spat with the usual suspects ( the mods) I invited them to supply examples ( of my rudeness, rudity, profanity, disrepect, lack of so mething, and they said they didnt have to they knew I had.) I got deleted

so... sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander

[Peter Pedant]

I think many see Mr Farage as a beacon of hope for this country because he's saying what they're thinking.  More power to his elbow!!

I think many saw Hilter as a beacon of hope for Germany against the Treaty of Versailles  because he was saying what they're thinking.   

But does this validate anything ?