1.000 Migrants Since Christmas Day

[fender62]

it's not even spring and they are flooding in, surely this has to be stopped, i know this is constantly discussed here, it's unsustainable, rayners build more houses erm build whole towns more like, all these men will want demand housing of some sort and of course money to live on.

https://www.gbnews.com/news/migrant-crisis-700-cross-channel-illegally-christmas-boxing-day

[ToraToraTora]

It's easily solved but no one wants to do it. End of.

[Khandro]

Only Reform UK have an answer, outlined here along with several other sensible things by Rupert Lowe;

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1885636.html

[max137]

Whats not to like for them given free everything while your own people struggle,crazy policy and it will carry on.

[Old_Geezer]

Should be sustainable, all we need to do is raise some more taxes, cut more benefits, reduce government departmental budgets, and build a few hundred more hotels. Simple.

[fender62]

Old_Geezer, what would not suprise me though, is labour making people in under occupied properties having to take in a   migrant or two, and then people with multiple properties having to do the same, communist utopia communal living enforced.

 

[Canary42]

It's called Kharma. Just ask the Maoris, the Aborigines, the Native Americans, all now second class citizens in their own countries after UK invasions.

[ToraToraTora]

another moronic parallel from canary. Ask those people if they'd rather live in mud huts and carp in the river or a modern devloped safe country with a full functioning infrastructure. I think we both know the answer.

[Untitled]

what is there to say exactly? people post some version of this question all the time and the responses are all the same.

[naomi24]

We could ask what Starmer is doing about it.  He said he had all the answers six months ago.

[brainiac]

What an appalling place France must be

[ToraToraTora]

the whole of the EUSSR must be an appalling *** loh.

[fender62]

Canary42, so your happy with this, sins of the father and all that, when the countrys infrastructure collapses, will you say well deserved and a long time coming, or just a little disruption and crime as long as it's not in your neck of the woods, because it's happening right now. plus we never invaded all the countries these men are coming from, this is just a free for all invasion because of weak laws that should not exist.

 

[New Judge]

"It's called Kharma. Just ask the Maoris, the Aborigines, the Native Americans, all now second class citizens in their own countries after UK invasions."

There is a slight difference.

When the UK "invaded" those nations, they were undeveloped and those living in them led largely primitive existences. Any valuable commodities of which the invaders took advantage were unbeknown to those living there and, but for the invasion, would have remained where they were.

Generally, the invaders (or colonists as I'll call them from here) usually improved the state of the places they colonised and left those places in a far better state than they were when they arrived.

This is in total contrast to what is happening in Europe and in the UK in particular. Most of Europe has a highly developed structure both physically and socially. Its infrastructure is mature and its social and political systems well established. The people arriving in Europe come from places which they have left precisely because there are few if any of those facilities.

I don't believe the European settlers in the Antipodes and the Americas enjoyed such facilities when they arrived. I doubt they were provided with shelter, board and lodging or with money to spend. I shouldn't imagine they had access to healthcare facilities, legal teams to argue for their right to remain or educational opportunities.

The colonists invested their time and money in developing the infrastructure of the places they settled. They introduced systems of healthcare, education and democratic institutions.

Those setling here have all of those already well established. They arrive to find that their every need will be met, from food and shelter, through to healthcare, education and legal advice. All of this has been and will continue to be paid for by UK taxpayers. 

But other than that, your analogy is spot on. 

[Peter Pedant]

dont bother to click  the Rupert Lowe site - it doesnt say

erm Typical AB post - full flood blaart and short on sensible ideas

[Peter Pedant]

Did someone just say that if we go to NZ we have to do don grass skirts - yeah righto!

jesus has to be AB in full flow

[ToraToraTora]

17:34 hear hear judge, I sometimes wonder what's going on with canary with these frankly idiotic pronouncements.

[Untitled]

"The colonists invested their time and money in developing the infrastructure of the places they settled. They introduced systems of healthcare, education and democratic institutions."

they also ruthlessly crushed opposition, upheld colonial power with torture and murder, and set up all those institutions for the benefit of the metropole, not the areas they colonised. in some areas they systematically exterminated the indigenous population and repopulated it with europeans. 

[ToraToraTora]

what would Australia, NZ, USA, Canada etc be like now if they were never colonised? Would they prefer that?

[sandyRoe]

One of the draws of the UK is the common language.

 

Many of those who come hoping for a peaceful life already speak English.  They've learned it because their countries were colonised.

[Untitled]

those are all places in which the indigenous population were exterminated and replaced with white europeans. i'm pretty sure the indigenous populations of those areas would have preferred not to go through that.  

there's no telling how the last 300 years might have looked if those societies developed independently through contact with europe rather than full conquest... that history was snuffed out.