Morning Star

[Khandro]

Just before dawn, with clear sky to the west - the bright morning star of Venus, - deep joy!

Have you seen her? 

[Radagast]

I thought there was something wrong with this post. You can only see Venus just before dawn in the East but it currently rises after 10 am.

[ToraToraTora]

If it's visible in the morning it will usually also be visible in the evening in the west just after sunset

[Radagast]

I think you're wrong. I'll try to tell you why when I've had another think about it.

[ToraToraTora]

Venus is nearer the sun thus it is visible in the direction that the sun rises or sets. Simples.

 

[Radagast]

If Venus rises before the Sun, it will ALWAYS set before it.

[ToraToraTora]

14:10 nope....

https://tinyurl.com/2f54rvmh

//Yes, it's possible to see Venus in both the morning and evening sky on the same day. This happens when Venus is close to Earth and the conditions are right, such as clear skies and a low horizon. This phenomenon occurs every eight years//

 

[Radagast]

Ok but it's rare.

[Khandro]

Radagast; at 7:30 am, still dark, I'm walking with my dog in a northerly direction along the footpath by the River Neckar, and Venus is over there to our left, which as far as I know, is still, 'the west'. 🙂

[perseverer]

At the moment Venus is quite definitely an evening 'star' in the west. It rises again in the east after 11am when the sun is well up.

[ToraToraTora]

14:27 it willl be in the east if visible in the morning.

[perseverer]

Mars is quite bright to the west at around 7.30am

[THECORBYLOON]

"Venus will appear as the morning star until around October before reappearing as the evening star in the winter.

To spot this astronomical visual for yourself, look towards the eastern horizon as the Sun begins to rise around dawn. When the time comes for the evening star you should look to the western horizon at sunset."

If you are looking East, it's not Venus.

[Prudie]

I'm not usually stargazing at dawn but in the East after sunset Jupiter has been very bright and visible lately and not long after Mars comes up behind it with Orion also clear more to the SE. I've checked them a lot on my phone app.

[bookbinder]

Yes, I have, many times over the past few years. Venus is, for me, a symbol of continuity, that all is well and is as it has been for millennia. Long may she continue to gleam.

[Radagast]

Well Khandro, you've got me flummoxed. At 7:30 am in Germany, Venus is 30 degrees below the horizon. Jupiter is a possibility if you've got your times slightly wrong, but whatever you're seeing, it isn't Venus.

[ToraToraTora]

probably Jupiter

[Khandro]

She's still lovely;

https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/night/germany/berlin

[mibn2cweus]

Venus has been an 'evening star' since last summer and will continue to be an 'evening star' (in the west after sunset) until spring. Venus will be at its brightest in February.

[Radagast]

Just looked west out the window. Perseverer called it. Khandro is seeing Mars. It's about 7:30 in Germany. You can see its redness.

[Khandro]

Temp. risen to + 3° so unfortunately it's overcast - no Morning Star, not even the moon.

Did you look at my link above Radagast ? I think you might be right.