Why Is The P M Wasting Time On The E U S S R ?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-should-be-rediverting-his-plane-to-us-to-see-trump-instead-of-flying-to-eu-talks-says-shadow-business-secretary-13301651

We have only geography in common with Europe.

[Untitled]

i would much rather get unfettered access to cheap EVs, semiconductors, and working 5G than score points with china over a deranged conspiracy theory

[Old_Geezer]

We don't want EVs, the governments have messed up enough on that already.  You can get your semiconductors from an independent Taiwan. Elsewhere too depending on what you want. But yes, we ought not have all our eggs in one Taiwanese basket.

[Untitled]

well if you don't want to throw in with china or the US or the EU then that's essentially all of the world's major economic powers off the list lol. we're gonna need to pick one.

 

[ynnafymmi]

We certainly dont want to throw in our lot with the Chinese aerosols Untitled till they pay up for the inconvenience and deaths they caused through their biological warfare experiments going wrong.

[Untitled]

i would be quite happy to do that actually

[ynnafymmi]

Good,then get your Chinese friends to do the same also.

[Untitled]

China has applied to join CPTPP which we are also in... the main obstacle to this was that mexico and canada would never vote in favour of it because of a clause in their trade agreement with the USA. well they aren't going to be worried about that anymore are they.

japan and australia have said they will oppose but those countries are already in another trade zone with china so they obviously are open to it.

a golden opportunity for british diplomacy to make the case for chinese membership of CPTPP. that would benefit us and foil trump's plans, and improve our economic links with china.

[ynnafymmi]

Mmmm,maybe after that aerosol Xi gets topped perhaps Untitled.China acts only in Chinas interests only.Anyway we shouldnt have anything to do with China till China pays massive reparations for their failed biological experimental disasters.

[Untitled]

that's your view. personally i think it's a stupid one. 

[ynnafymmi]

What?Getting the Chinese to admit to causing the Covid crisis and paying massive reparations to the rest of the world for their incompetence.As far as i can see the rest of the world has been a wee bit to friendly to the Chinese regime,why the hell should we be sucking up to Xi and his murderous regime?

[Untitled]

because i think the idea that covid was a failed biological warfare experiment is up there with the idea that the moon landing was faked or that lenin was possessed by parasitic mushrooms. it's not a serious idea. 

[sandyRoe]

Would we be better off kowtowing to the great orange blob in Maralargo or being first among equals in the company of our European neighbours?

[ynnafymmi]

You are sounding like a Chinese Bot now Untitled.Whats your view on the fascist dictator Xi,what are your views on Putins war against the Ukrainian people?

[Untitled]

i think putin's war is a crime against humanity. 
 

i don't think that xi is a fascist. i think he is a highly intelligent but cruel and ruthless authoritarian communist. 

[Ellipsis]

Trump is for four years 😉 relationships with the USA and the rest of the world are for much longer ...

The USA is only one basket to put your eggs into - deal with them at the expense of other trading partners at your global economic peril.

[Untitled]

it doesn't matter if he leaves office next week. he has proven that the USA cannot be trusted to stick to its agreements.

[Hymie]

I read a recent youtube post, which all the AB Brexiteers would whole-heartedly agree with:-

‘Voting to reverse Brexit would be undemocratic’

[Old_Geezer]

It wouldn't necessarily be undemocratic, but it would be extremely foolish. First off because the period of EU sour grapes has yet to finish so nothing has settled down to judge the situation and encourage UK politicians to extract their digit and make the most of the freedom to work for the benefit of the nation and it's citizens. And secondly because capitulating to the EU elite would mean accepting the unacceptable in terms of further demands, thus demonstrating that those who voted for such a reversal must either be deliberately trying to ruin the nation, or that they are so hard of thinking that they don't understand what they are voting for.

 

There has to be a sufficiently long term to allow the new status to settle in order to judge it properly, which is why any such vote must still be decades away.  One can't allow folk to destoy a nation by flip-flopping and worse, indicating to the rest of the world that they are so indecisive that they can't be taken seriously.

[youngmafbog]

'i even think china is a better bet. '

Well from a commie 🤣

[newmodarmy]

Hymie just doesn't seem to understand that we shouldn't need  the EU to tell is what we can and can't do regarding the examples given. These are matters for our government. If he doesn't like what our governments do Hymie should find or create a party that does do what he/she feels is needed