Blooming Personalities C/D 30Th November
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Are we burying our heads in the sand?
According to Caroline Glick in the Jerusalem Post, we could be close to a nuclear war, but the voices of those crying in the wilderness are few and far between here in the west.
If she is right, what should we do?
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If she is right, what should we do?
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The biggest treat to the world will not be between Iran and Israel but with The USA and China and which involves Taiwan.
The push for Taiwan's independence, assisted from the USA, and a split from mainland China threatens to destroy this fragile peace.
Chinese bulletins regularly discuss the subject and any visiting heads of state are told to say they believe in the one-China policy (the penalty for refusal to say so is never mentioned).
The situation would improve greatly if the USA removed all its weapons from the island so that mutual friendly talks could take place between Taiwan and China.
The push for Taiwan's independence, assisted from the USA, and a split from mainland China threatens to destroy this fragile peace.
Chinese bulletins regularly discuss the subject and any visiting heads of state are told to say they believe in the one-China policy (the penalty for refusal to say so is never mentioned).
The situation would improve greatly if the USA removed all its weapons from the island so that mutual friendly talks could take place between Taiwan and China.
How can Isreal possibly condemn 'Islamofascism' and criticise the political systems of other countries, when the Isreali state is itself Judeofascitic. A call from a country that is, essentially, a theocracy has no right to tell others that they are a threat to democracy.
Caroline Glick should be reminded that Isreal is currently the ONLY nuclear power in the Middle East and as such should not be as paranoid as they are. Crackpot leaders, like Ahmedinejad, are ten-a-penny, and should not be taken seriously. But Isreal, the US and Britain play into his hands by talking up the threat that he poses and giving him an excuse to incite anti-semitic feelings. Is there no-one in modern political life who now believes that diplomacy is an option? I am quite left-wing in my approach, but I have to sya that the recent Baker commission report makes a lot of sense. The allied powers that began the war in Iraq MUST start negotiating with its neighbours. Isreal has, once again, showed that it is an obstacle to peace by refusing to even consider talking. Honestly, it's like a spoiled child in the schoolyard who knows that they have everything but is unwilling to share.
What should we do? We should lead by example and not spend �26 billion on Trident, then we can start preaching. If then, they still don't listen, let them do us all a favour and blow each other to smithereens. We'll see then how much their religion matters to them, when they start a war that is impossible to win.
Caroline Glick should be reminded that Isreal is currently the ONLY nuclear power in the Middle East and as such should not be as paranoid as they are. Crackpot leaders, like Ahmedinejad, are ten-a-penny, and should not be taken seriously. But Isreal, the US and Britain play into his hands by talking up the threat that he poses and giving him an excuse to incite anti-semitic feelings. Is there no-one in modern political life who now believes that diplomacy is an option? I am quite left-wing in my approach, but I have to sya that the recent Baker commission report makes a lot of sense. The allied powers that began the war in Iraq MUST start negotiating with its neighbours. Isreal has, once again, showed that it is an obstacle to peace by refusing to even consider talking. Honestly, it's like a spoiled child in the schoolyard who knows that they have everything but is unwilling to share.
What should we do? We should lead by example and not spend �26 billion on Trident, then we can start preaching. If then, they still don't listen, let them do us all a favour and blow each other to smithereens. We'll see then how much their religion matters to them, when they start a war that is impossible to win.
bigmalc - I disagree. Israel is not a "Judeofascist theocracy", but a secular democracy, that has an established religion written into its constitution. Similar, but not the same as the established Church of England here. True, they have more clout in Israeli affairs, but nowhere near to what you describe.
It is the only true democracy in the Middle East, evidenced by the numerous changes of government and leaders over the years.
Don't take Ahmadinejad seriously? You mean the way we in the West didn't take Hitler seriously in the early 1930's?
He repeatedly calls for Israels destruction, and Americas! Can we take the risk?
Benyamin Netanyahu, ex prime minister of Israel, tells of a Holocaust survivor, who was asked what lessons he had learned from the Holocaust. His reply was, "When somebody says they are going to kill you, believe him. And then stop him."
http://www.jerusalemonline.com/ujc.asp
Is diplomacy an option? I hope so, but remember, "Peace in our time." So let's hope for diplomacy, but prepare for its failure.
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It is the only true democracy in the Middle East, evidenced by the numerous changes of government and leaders over the years.
Don't take Ahmadinejad seriously? You mean the way we in the West didn't take Hitler seriously in the early 1930's?
He repeatedly calls for Israels destruction, and Americas! Can we take the risk?
Benyamin Netanyahu, ex prime minister of Israel, tells of a Holocaust survivor, who was asked what lessons he had learned from the Holocaust. His reply was, "When somebody says they are going to kill you, believe him. And then stop him."
http://www.jerusalemonline.com/ujc.asp
Is diplomacy an option? I hope so, but remember, "Peace in our time." So let's hope for diplomacy, but prepare for its failure.
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How has Israel shown itself unwilling to talk?
Many years ago, Anwar Sadat, Egypts prime minister, went to Israel to talk, as the Israelis brokered a treaty with him. It worked, and Israel has been at peace with Egypt ever since. Sadat paid with his life, murdered by his own troops for being audacious enough to talk to Israel.
You've got it the wrong way round. Israel is willing to talk, but nobody will talk to them.
Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister, was so exasperated at not even having anybody from the Palestinian camp to negotiate with over the proposed withdrawal from the West Bank, that on a trip to the U.S. and the U.K. he proposed unilateral withdrawal, but was advised by Blair, Bush, and Mahmoud Abbas, not to, as such action could cause a power vacuum leading to anarchy. Israel still awaits a Palestinian unity government, with which to negotiate.
Will Iran talk to Israel? No! Will Syria talk to Israel? No! So to whom do you refer when you allege Israeli intransigence?
Israel is part of the "Quartet", (Israel, U.S., E.U. and Russia), part of the "Road Map" peace process. Israel talks, but there is nobody willing or able to come on board from the Arab side.
If there is a country that claims Israel will not talk, which one? I don't know of any.
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How has Israel shown itself unwilling to talk?
Many years ago, Anwar Sadat, Egypts prime minister, went to Israel to talk, as the Israelis brokered a treaty with him. It worked, and Israel has been at peace with Egypt ever since. Sadat paid with his life, murdered by his own troops for being audacious enough to talk to Israel.
You've got it the wrong way round. Israel is willing to talk, but nobody will talk to them.
Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister, was so exasperated at not even having anybody from the Palestinian camp to negotiate with over the proposed withdrawal from the West Bank, that on a trip to the U.S. and the U.K. he proposed unilateral withdrawal, but was advised by Blair, Bush, and Mahmoud Abbas, not to, as such action could cause a power vacuum leading to anarchy. Israel still awaits a Palestinian unity government, with which to negotiate.
Will Iran talk to Israel? No! Will Syria talk to Israel? No! So to whom do you refer when you allege Israeli intransigence?
Israel is part of the "Quartet", (Israel, U.S., E.U. and Russia), part of the "Road Map" peace process. Israel talks, but there is nobody willing or able to come on board from the Arab side.
If there is a country that claims Israel will not talk, which one? I don't know of any.
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To say finally in your comment that Israel is like a spoiled child etc etc, is simple mud slinging without any justification.
Your solution to all of this, is, in part, for us to abandon nuclear weapons. Fair enough. But what if we had abandoned our air force in the 1930's? Would that have slowed Hitler down, or stopped him? So if Ahmadinejad decides to get the bomb, and use it, should we retaliate with conventional weaponry? Would this retaliatory threat stop him on his mad course? You underestimate the man, and the threat.
Then, of course, if they in the Middle East don't listen to our morally superior preaching, they can do us all a favour and, "blow each other to smithereens." The things that puzzle me about that statement, are the complementary remarks you got for making it, from Llamatron, Noxlumos and Carakeel. That's really difficult to understand from these three respected ABers.
To say finally in your comment that Israel is like a spoiled child etc etc, is simple mud slinging without any justification.
Your solution to all of this, is, in part, for us to abandon nuclear weapons. Fair enough. But what if we had abandoned our air force in the 1930's? Would that have slowed Hitler down, or stopped him? So if Ahmadinejad decides to get the bomb, and use it, should we retaliate with conventional weaponry? Would this retaliatory threat stop him on his mad course? You underestimate the man, and the threat.
Then, of course, if they in the Middle East don't listen to our morally superior preaching, they can do us all a favour and, "blow each other to smithereens." The things that puzzle me about that statement, are the complementary remarks you got for making it, from Llamatron, Noxlumos and Carakeel. That's really difficult to understand from these three respected ABers.
Noxlumos - With the greatest of respect to your Jewish wife, (most sincerely meant), I have to say that I believe she is mistaken, and would do well to look at this well respected site, particularly the streaming videos.
Your comments are always valued. Thank you.
http://www.memri.org/
Your comments are always valued. Thank you.
http://www.memri.org/
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