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Hi gasman, thank you very much for your help and advice, I have been messing about with the rads all weekend turning both valves on fully turning one down a little- what a mission. Anyway now I have managed to get them all on but only warm - I am not complaining this is better than nothing at all. I have also read that the flow side is the pipe that gets the hottest first. The rads that are warm seam to be a lotter warmer at the top that the bottom!. Have you any further advice for me? Thankyou