same thing?

[kelsc25]

How can pre-marital sex be a mortal sin if killing is supposedly a mortal sin? Just wondering what people think about it because i've been debating that thought in my mind for a while now

[sammy85]

well, if we look at it religion wise it is definately a sin. there is no need for pre marital sex, you're not a shoe that people have to try then decide whether they'll take you or not. Scientifically it is proven that having more than one partner might result in many viruses and diseases and it gets you tired. all I can say is...just wait for the right man and you will really enjoy it when you get married and share love with your husband.

[Moog]

What rubbish - "scientifically it is proven that.... it get's you tired" what is that supposed to mean? And as for viruses and diseases, going to West Africa exposes you to all sorts of diseases but it's not a mortal sin is it? Is it still a mortal sin if you only have one sexual partner who you intend to marry?

[thewillow]

It's all poppycock. It's just another example of the Catholic church trying to control people. They have a nerve given the activities of a substantial minority of its priests over the decades.

[I.R.]

It all depends on what you believe in, what moral codes you adhere to. Christianity, for one, condemns it thoruoghly. It is not just about the fact that you could get infected with a virus, or something, it is just against God's will, as stated in the bible. And these days, health-workers recommend abstinence as a way of avoiding the dreaded HIV/AIDS. I guess you just have to consider all the factors involved, and make up your mind what you want. Ultimately, the choice is yours.

[andy hughes]

In the terms of your question - just because one act is a mortal sin does not in any way excuse any other from being a mortal sin as well, it's not a points system, or a value-applied notion. As an aetheist, I do not believe in the concept of mortaql sin, whether or not you do is a matter of personal belief. I hope at least this sorts out your debate.

[sammy85]

Atheist ! oh my God...! what do you live for may I ask you andy Hughes? how were created?

[kags]

Comparing one "sin" with another is impossible. I believe we all have our own moral code, and we should live by it, but not try to impose it on others. Nor should we allow others to impose their's on us. kelc25, you need to look within yourself and decide how you feel about pre-marital sex. If you feel it is wrong, then fine, if you feel there is nothing wrong with it, then fine too.

[Moog]

I like andy hughes am also an atheist sammy85 and believe that I am the product of millions of years of evolution and am in fact genetically coded to reproduce which makes the whole idea of abstinence before marriage seem ludicrous to me. I understand that in this day and age you have to be careful about your choice of sexual partners and that promiscuity is not really a very sensible idea. However I'm not sure how a person who has only had one sexual partner that they intend to spend the rest of their life with but is not married to that person can be committing a mortal sin? - like andy hughes says it's a concept that is alien to me

[spainlads]

Andy Hughes is created the same way as everything else, we evolved. The same way the dinosaur were. You know, the largest thing EVER to have walked the earth. Yet, bible fails to mention them. They live long before man was 'invented' yet that bit seems to have been missing from the best selling book of FICTION in the world.

[bernardo]

Thank God I'm an atheist.

[cheyenne]

sammy85,my mate jock (a man) is waiting for the right man to come along ??any tips.

[I.R.]

"Thank God I'm an atheist"??!! Ain't you contradicting yourself, Bernado??

[Moog]

every heard or irony I.R.?

[I.R.]

Moog, Irony= what you do to straighten out your clothes! (just joking, he-he!!) Ever found yourself give a silent prayer when faced with some difficulty, Moog? who do you pray to when you say things like "God help me"? Face it, Moog (and all you atheists out there) God does exist!

[Moog]

Is that you're proof that God exists, he must do because people pray to him?!

[I.R.]

God's existence isn't dependent on what you believe, Moog! He exists, period! And now I know we've completely deviated from the main question, something about pre-marital sex, don't you think?

[tracymort]

I can't work out how someting thats so nice and natural can be wrong. load of old tripe! if we weren't meant to have sex we would have the bits and the hormones for it. Just look what happens when you ban sex, bad things happen like dodgy paedophile vicars etc. We have 2 wonderful children from sin (getting married next week though!) so how can it be wrong? It feels nice and makes gorgeous children, yeah thats just so evil. (sarcastic smiley needed here!) What about all those evil animals, as far as i know they don't get married.

[Moog]

By the same arguement I.R. I don't believe in God so he doesn't exist!

[zgma]

I for one am very happy to have had a fair amount of premarital sex. I learned the ropes, figured out my likes and dislikes, and experienced several different styles. By the time I figured out who I was going to marry, I (1) knew that we were good together sexually; (2) didn't have to wonder what I'd missed; and (3) had been shacked up with him for 5 years so we'd already worked out many of our issues and I knew that we'd do alright (this is a plug for living together before getting married!).