Ruth Ellis

[lizzydrippin]

Ive always believed Ruth Ellis to be the last woman to be hung in Holloway Prison but my neighbour says she was hung in a Manchester prison. Anyone know where she was hung? (poor woman, she'd get community service these days)

[kempie]

Ruth Ellis was hanged at Holloway Prison on 13th July, 1955.

[jake-the-peg]

Really - can you get community service for emptying a full 6 shots from a .38 revolver into your lover?

Are there any gun shops locally? ;C)

[Lonnie]

A bit off the mark, but I have a Hebe that was taken as a cutting fom one in her garden.

Just a little boast.

[lizzydrippin]

Ah so I was right! cheers for that kempie!
jake-the-peg, I was reading in an evening daily newspaper a few days ago that you can hire a gun for �250 a night but the price doubles if the gun is fired!
Lonnie, Im impressed, did the cutting take? you could probably sell your own cuttings from it on Ebay.

[jake-the-peg]

Firearms have always been available.

Nobody seems to know where Ruth Ellis got hers from

Contrary to what you may read in the papers the average life sentence (mandatory for murder) results in 14 years behind bars

[lizzydrippin]

I wasn't seriously suggesting that anyone would get community service for committing murder but was just having a wee dig about sentences being rather light these days. Im pretty sure that its rare for someone who's been given 14 yrs for murder would actually do 14 yrs in prison. The sentence is halved straight away (it used to be a third but I think its changed now) and then there's parole etc.

[Count_Emmup]

There is little doubt that her recent abortion, mistreatment by the murder victim, depression and dependency upon prescribed sedatives would have secured her a lighter sentence nowadays.

There is also, J t P, litle doubt that the gun was given to her by Desmond Cussen, an accountant with whom she'd had an affair.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,2763 ,1040438,00.html

[Count_Emmup]

It's not halved straightaway at all, it can be halved by parole, preceded by short spells out on leave for work etc, but it's all dependent on behaviour, and far from automatic.

[galltin]

Thanks for that link , it was interesting.

[Bellringer]

To be pedantic liz. Pictures are hung, people are hanged. Not enough of them in my view.

[galltin]

Me too.
I like a nice picture.

[lizzydrippin]

Cheers for that Bellringer!