Tarot and the like

[Leapers]

is tarot reading runes palm reading and astrology forbidden in the bible?

[Clanad]

Yes, in many references such as Deuteronomy 18:10-12, Leviticus 19:31, 20:6 and ... The first king of the combined Northern and Southern kingdoms of Israel and Judah was Saul. His death(at his own hands) is related to his consulting the Witch of Endor as related in 1 Samuel Chapter 28.
In the New Covenant, Galatians 5:19-20 and Acts 8:9-13 (among others) also inveigh against witchcraft or "familiar spirits".
Ironically Tarot cards are believed to have had their origin in the mystical branch of Judaism known as Kabbalah wherein they are called Tarocchi...

[Theland]

It's like giving Satan a lever to manipulate your life and best avoided.

[WaldoMcFroog]

...unless it's the many examples where astrology is explicitly stated to be okay, not least of which in the creation, where it explicitly states that stars are created to act as signs.

Or Luke 21:25-27, where it again explicitly says that the stars can be used for predictive purposes.

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Hmmm. Bible in contradictory shocker.

[rufusruffcut]

may I ask the following ? Adam and eve had two sons caine and abel .. caine killed abel ... so caine populated the world on his own ?

[tattoo1094]

I am a practising spiritulist and sometimes have read the cards ,tealeaves and am quite fond of astrology ,that can go back for centuries its older than christianty itself so for people to say its 'SATANS LEVER' is complete codswallop.
It depends how you chose to use your faith.
As for the bible i have respect for every faith but am not entirely convinced by its rantings.
Its how you percieve the scriptures its not quite as black and white as all that.....

[jojojojoanne]

could the idea of visions/imterpretations (literally, mataphorically etc) be seen to be some way similar to the idea of prediction/suggestion/manipulation techniques(say, in a spiritual setting?) and to what extent are the two interlinked? (if indeed they are!or is this just a 'grey area?')

[Octavius]

The bible was written in a time when most people had an abject fear of the use of magic or witchcraft and many other means of prediction, so they could only conclude it was the devils work.

So, does it really matter to you Leapers? If it really does, then you won�t be reading your star signs or getting tarot readings. If it doesn�t then it just doesn�t � presuming you are not asking this with tongue in cheek.

I read my star signs quite often, and I have been to a tarot reading and a palmist - not the work of the devil, more the well-versed incantations of charlatan�s in my opinion, but that has little to do with any of my religious beliefs.

[Theland]

Waldo - not contradictory at all.
http://www.historicism.com/Guinness/Approachin g/aeota14.htm
It is a greater subject than the simplistic view you have presented .... in my opinion.

[WaldoMcFroog]

a) It's not my simplistic view at all, it's simply the fact that the Bible is contradictory on this point
b) Um, that site... Woo Woos, mate.