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Self defence on a bouncer - now charged with ABH & Criminal Damage
NEED ADVICE FROM A CONCERNED GIRLFRIEND.b/friend Sam was trying to take promo badge off his shirt (that I had put on)in a club&a bouncer told him to put his shirt back on,sam told the bouncer that he was trying to get the badge off,bouncer said put your shirt on now.Sam did do, bouncer then said to sam who the f**k do you think you are&went ahead and threw him out of the club.
Once outside sam moved away frm the door waiting for me to come out (I was not far behind him),within a matter of seconds the bouncer who chucked sam out was walking towards him, fist clenched. Sam had not said anything to him and was away from the club&door,he kept walking backwards and the bouncer continued to walk towards him,sam thought he was going to get attacked&hit the bouncer who fell to the ground.sam did NOT continue hitting him.It was one punch, the other bouncers then jumped onto sam, punched and bit him. During this a wing mirror of a car was damaged, which sam is charged for.Sam got arrested & now it's going to crown court.
sam did admit he hit the bouncer but it was self defence.following day we went to town to see what CCTV there was so hopefully it could pick up sam moving away. there were 2 camera,got told that one was facing the floor!,other caught the last part of the fight &shows the bouncers feet heading away from the club.The hit has not been caught on CCTV.There are no independent witnesses. it's bouncers word against sam's.seems like the bouncer is trying to get personal injury claim.it's affecting me & my work. I've never been in trouble with police so have no idea how the process works.
Should I write to the judge? What could we do to get justice? It seems like in the eyes of the law you are guilty until proven innocent! It's not like Sam&even though he is a big guy he has never hit anyone&has no convictions, he could lose his job if found guilty.
ANY advice is really,appreciated. Many Thanks in advance
Once outside sam moved away frm the door waiting for me to come out (I was not far behind him),within a matter of seconds the bouncer who chucked sam out was walking towards him, fist clenched. Sam had not said anything to him and was away from the club&door,he kept walking backwards and the bouncer continued to walk towards him,sam thought he was going to get attacked&hit the bouncer who fell to the ground.sam did NOT continue hitting him.It was one punch, the other bouncers then jumped onto sam, punched and bit him. During this a wing mirror of a car was damaged, which sam is charged for.Sam got arrested & now it's going to crown court.
sam did admit he hit the bouncer but it was self defence.following day we went to town to see what CCTV there was so hopefully it could pick up sam moving away. there were 2 camera,got told that one was facing the floor!,other caught the last part of the fight &shows the bouncers feet heading away from the club.The hit has not been caught on CCTV.There are no independent witnesses. it's bouncers word against sam's.seems like the bouncer is trying to get personal injury claim.it's affecting me & my work. I've never been in trouble with police so have no idea how the process works.
Should I write to the judge? What could we do to get justice? It seems like in the eyes of the law you are guilty until proven innocent! It's not like Sam&even though he is a big guy he has never hit anyone&has no convictions, he could lose his job if found guilty.
ANY advice is really,appreciated. Many Thanks in advance
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His barrister said right from the beginning that he wouldn't be sentenced on the day. He's sentenced in 4 weeks and in that time he meets with the probation services, they compile a report on him including evidence of good character, references, employment, college and such things. After looking at all that and seeing if he is sorry for what he did and is a genuine person etc they will suggest a sentence, then it gets passed on to the judge before he decides what sentence my boyfriend should get.
So, that's probably what you mean, I'm just not sure of the exact terms and things.
His barrister said right from the beginning that he wouldn't be sentenced on the day. He's sentenced in 4 weeks and in that time he meets with the probation services, they compile a report on him including evidence of good character, references, employment, college and such things. After looking at all that and seeing if he is sorry for what he did and is a genuine person etc they will suggest a sentence, then it gets passed on to the judge before he decides what sentence my boyfriend should get.
So, that's probably what you mean, I'm just not sure of the exact terms and things.
Hi Suzieb,
Thansk for your post and update. I happy to hear that your partner did not go to prison. All this can be really stressful and scary!
Luckily there was some CCTV footage in your case, the police did not get vital CCTV footage that would of matched Sams statement. At the moment it's the bouncer and his pals word against Sam's. It is going to take forever to get to trial so I'll let you guys know how it goes. Once again thank you all for all your advice, really appreciate it.
Thansk for your post and update. I happy to hear that your partner did not go to prison. All this can be really stressful and scary!
Luckily there was some CCTV footage in your case, the police did not get vital CCTV footage that would of matched Sams statement. At the moment it's the bouncer and his pals word against Sam's. It is going to take forever to get to trial so I'll let you guys know how it goes. Once again thank you all for all your advice, really appreciate it.
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