this really upset/disturbed me

[DJerba]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama /6962563.stm

Did anyone watch this last night?

It made me feel physically sick, especially when they explained how a dog near death was wired up with croc clips covered in water and then pluged intoi the mains as they had no other way of killing it.

This trade is sickening I dont understand how people do this!

[Ethel]

Big money. Simple as that.

[888sally888]

I am so glad I didnt see this programme - sound horrific.

[andrea81]

coudn't watch it, too upsetting. It is big money and it'll never stop, just lke drugs and gun sales!

[DJerba]

Ethel - I now see how people make so much money from it but from another point of view pure bred pitbulls are illegal in this country, right? And yet they showed how easy it was to bring on in the country in fact no one stopped them to even ask what breed the dog was whats up with that?

Its really sad especially when you consider the Ellie lawrenson case

888sally888 - it wasn't nice I;m not particuarlly a big dog lover but i thought I was going to throw up :o (

[andrea81]

Problem is that criminals always find a way. Donging police and leagal loop hols are where they are at their best.

I wish more could be done and I would put my name to it, but unless people of authority take it seriously it will remain a big problem!

[888sally888]

Well my puppy was attacked by an American pit bull and the only way we could remove it was with a metal bar, pepper spray and a hammer. This happened at puppy training classes with lots of people to help me. Had i been alone in the park for instance, Pickles would be dead for sure. These dogs should be banned and their owners bl**dy well be electicuted.

[Reverandfunk]

Did you see what happened to the footballer?

Laughable.

[DJerba]

The incident with the footballer makes a laughing stock of the law...funny how when they were all confronted as well they denied everything!

Andrea, in the prog it was 2 BBC reporters that bought the dog 'nipper' into the country they were provided with papers and quite obviously came across on a ferry with it. It was in a cage in the back of an estate car quite clearly in view of anyone in teh authorities. they didn't hide him nothing.

I just dont get it

[andrea81]

Well like I said I didn't see it, but if thats the case it just shows how much of a problem it is.

I know people from N Ireland and it is common knowledge that these people are into bigger things than this, most have contacts in drugs supplying and guns! I think they are very nasty people and I guess the authorities cant cope!

Very nasty for dogs, I bet the cruelty for animal groups are scared for themselves to get involved!

[Reverandfunk]

If we dont jail violent repeat offenders we aren't going to jail dog fighters. Sad but true.

[boojp]

That sounds horrendous.

[Shadow Man]

888sally888 are you American??

two reasons i ask.

In the UK American Pit Bulls are banned under The Dangerous Dogs Act. Hence they are illegal full stop.

Also under the Firearms Act, pepper spray is also classed as a Section 5 firearm, hence also illegal.

If you are in the UK, may I suggest you report the puppy class as a front for some kind of gangster establishment.

[johux]

I can't even look at it, sorry x

[leelapops]

Someone posted re. this in "Animals and nature". I didn't know it was on, and would probably have wept all the way through if I had watched it. Words can't begin to explain what I would like to do to those who pit dogs against one another for "sport". It is vile and disgusting, whether it be the aristocracy of the 1800s, or the skinheaded drugdealing ****s of now.

Pit bulls are illegal here, but yes, they still make it over. In America they are banned in a few states I think. I am very much aware of their breed background, but as usual, humans are to blame for this, and I am told that pit bulls can make very good pets. Many are abandoned in the States-I think people get them, and only realise the reputation they have when others scoop up their dogs and children and cross the road at the sight of a pit bull.

When I googled dog-fighting, I also found a link to something called "hog-dogging", which goes on in the Southern States of America. This "family activity" involves placing a dog into a ring with a wild hog. The dog attacks the hog, and the hog is wounded badly, but not killed. If the hog isn't distressed enough, participants also allow their kids to chase the hog, whose snout is taped shut. Disgusting.

[Whickerman]

It's sickening and vile.

But it's on the same level as, say, Hare Coursing, and that's not just tolerated - it's huge (although thankfully banned in Northern Ireland). And some top celebs are involved in Coursing- Vinnie Jones for one.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/01 00regionalnews/page.cfm?objectid=13970275&meth od=full&siteid=50061

[bensmum]

Sorry - I couldn't watch the programme -it makes me feel sick just to think about it.

[ir miss odd]

it was so sad and the people who do it must be sick in the head! i didnt see it but i read about it and the puppies mad me cry im so glad i didnt see it

[babybombo]

Oh my goodness,
Im so glad I didnt see that program.
I just read the report and cried when he talked about that poor dog being electrocuted.
I really cant get my head round how anyone could do such things to a living creature