negelct

[maggs1703]

my daughter has been charged with negelct as she left her partner in charge of her child he was beaten but no charges were brought against him as there were no witness' nad the evidence was circumstantial how much trouble could she be in and what sort of a punishment could she get

[NORMANTHEDOG]

who was beaten,her partner or the child and by whom,explain it a bit more,please.

[maggs1703]

thank you the child was the person who was beaten he is no longer with his mother but we know it was not her who did this.

[Buenchico]

Offences under the relevant section of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933 carry a maximum sentence of 6 months imprisonment if the case is heard in a magistrates' court. If the case is referred to the Crown Court, the maximum sentence is two years imprisonment.

Note that the charge, as read out in court, will use the word 'cruelty', rather than 'neglect'. (Under the Act, neglect is defined as a form of cruelty).

The actual sentence will be determined by specific circumstances. e.g. the court would look at how long your daughter left her partner in charge of her child, her reasons for doing so and whether she had any knowledge of the physical abuse of the boy. It's possible that a non-custodial sentence might be imposed but a short term of imprisonment (e.g. 3 months or 6 months) is probably more likely.

Chris

[NORMANTHEDOG]

please tell us how the child managed to get beaten,and why your daughter has been charged,there seems to be more to this then you are saying.

[maggs1703]

thank you for your reply my daughter left her son in the care of her boyfriend and he suffered non accidental bruising he had numerous bruises to show he had been beaten not necessarily at the same time my daughter has been charged with neglect as she failed to protect but she didn't know he had suffered she beleived her partner that her son had fell etc!

[NORMANTHEDOG]

what country are you living in.

[cheries]

Sorry Norm, that really should be "What planet are you living on?"
Maggs, a parent has a responsibility to protect his / her child. I for one find it hard to believe that your daughter had no knowledge of her son's suffering - seemingly at the hands of this man. You say that the boy had older bruises on his body, yet again your daughter had no inkling that he was being systematically abused?
I smell a rat here.

[maggs1703]

i came on here for advise not to be slatted he is safe and the person who did this has got away with it but thank you all ne way

[Beanmistriss]

Cheries - thats reallu unfair. When I was little I was the clumsiest child alive and I was always covered in bruises. Sometimes I didn't even know where they came from. I had to go to hospital for stitches one time and I had a black eye at the same time. My mum was interrogated at the hospital so badly that when my little sister has a cut that really should have been stitched my mum was frightened to take her. My swimming instructor also took me out of the pool one time and asked me where a massive bruise on my leg had come from. When I said I didn't know he told me he would be keeping a very close eye on me in the future. I was just pure clumsy. It's very possible that this lady just thought her kid had normal kid bruises from playing especially if he didn't tell her what was going on.

[cheries]

I take your point on the chin, Bean, but as a teacher I am constantly reminded of the consequences of parental neglect and abuse. I accept that there will be occasions where accidental bruising ( and believe me, as a horserider for 25 years I know all about being bruised as a kid!) occurs; however I think we can assume from Maggs' comment here;
"...suffered non accidental bruising he had numerous bruises to show he had been beaten not necessarily at the same time"
that this child was being systematically beaten and was left unchecked for a period of time.
I agree that parents are under the microscope more these days, but the reason that things are like this is to try to prevent another Victoria Climbie incident where people assumed that she was safe and well cared for. Gaps in the system let Victoria down and I for one would MUCH rather embarass a potentially innocent parent than miss the symptoms of abuse because I was too scared of offending a fully grown adult.

[druskininkai]

I was falsely accused by social services while pregnant. I suffered a nervous breakdown and heavy bleeding causing my son to be born small. This has affected me to the extent that my whole way of life has changed for the worse, I lost my partner, my family are just beginning to accept it wasn't my fault 2 years on, and my friends. I am terrified of anyone in authority i.e. social workers, courts, police etc. Even when my innocence was proven they didn't want to let go, they breached my confidentiality, refused my files under the data protection act, fabricated evidence, lied, were deceiptful, and presumed my guilt before even meeting me. I could go on. My point is that destoying innocent families does not prevent cases like Victoria Climbie's, it makes them more probable as resources are diverted.