Who is Lady Blunt?

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can anyone tell me if the Lady Blunt who had Henry 8th son in "The Tudors" actually existed? Or their son for that matter?

[vehelpfulguy]

Looks like he had a son by Elizabeth Blount, not sure if it is supposed to be the same person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Fitzroy%2C_ 1st_Duke_of_Richmond_and_Somerset

Details of all Henry's children here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Henry_VI II's_children

[jno]

ironic that all his wives failed to produce a male heir - giving rise to the Anglican church - when he had one all along

[vehelpfulguy]

>ironic that all his wives failed to produce a male heir -

Well he did have male heir's, just that none of them survived.

He had at least 3 boys by Catherine of Aragon (his first wife) but all died very young.

Because she had already been married to Henry's younger brother this caused him to say the marriage was cursed, giving him an excuse to divorce her, which then of course led to the break from the Catholic church.

Must be one of the most facinating periods in English history.

[vehelpfulguy]

On thing that has always amazed me about Henry VIII.

He had three children that DID survive him (Edward, Mary and Elizabeth)

ALL THREE became king or queen (which must be quite unusual, all 3 heirs taking the throne)

But NONE of them produced an heir themselves (which also must be quite unusual).

[jno]

two short-lived male children (plus three girls who died young and Mary, who became queen). Katherine had actually married Henry's older brother Arhtur - imagine how different history would have been if he had survived and become king instead of Henry. But she said the marriage was never consummated so she was free to marry Henry.

[dundurn]

Something similar happened in France 250 years earlier. Philip IV died and his three sons Louis X, Philip V and Charles IV all succeeded him. Louis did have a son John I but he was born after his father's death and died while still a baby. Louis had older daughters but they were excluded from inheriting the throne by an act passed by Philp V. When Philip V and Charles also had no children the crown passed to a cousin, Philip VI, the first of the Valois kings. The real "wrinkle" in the story is that because daughters were excluded, Philip IV's daughter Isabella was disinherited also. She was the wife of Edward II of England and mother of the future Edward III. It was Edward III's claim to the throne of France through his mother that led to the 100 Years War.

[fletcher.5]

Yes his name was Fitzwilliam Fitz = out of wedlock

[pedantic]

The son of Henry VIII and Elizabeth Blount was known as Henry Fitzroy (son of the king). He became duke of Richmond which was the title of his grandfather Henry VII before he took the throne. He died young, shortly after the beheading of Anne Boleyn.