Redundancy for pert-time teacher

[kittysass]

If a school makes a part time teacher redundant in the summer term are they obliged to pay through the holidays?

[factor-fiction]

I don't see any difference in this case between being part time and full time. You are entitled to your notice period(and any redundancy payment). What were the dates and notice terms in your case?

[kittysass]

I am going to hear next Tuesday that I am to be made redundant . My notice period is 2 months in my contract but my concern is whether or not they are obliged to pay me for the summer holidays which does of course normally happen, seeing as I would not be able to get any other school work within this period until september. Basically I
cant live over the Summer without this salary .

[pusspuss]

best of luck

[buildersmate]

I agree with Factor - they are not obliged to defer your redundancy date to 31st August to effectively pay you through the summer break. A teachers' employment contract is the the same as any other - its just that the holidays work differently.
It is unfortunate, but legally I don't see what you can do. On the positive side, you would perhaps be able to use the redundancy money to fund yourself through the summer.

Suggest you get as many applications in to other schools during the summer term to get yourself time off to find alternative work. As an extra thought, since your employer is obliged to give you reasonable time off during redundnacy notice period to find other work, why not start applying for all manner of other jobs - and demanding time off for that - maybe you can use the threat of exercising your legal right to this, to put pressure on the employer to move the termination date back a bit?

[factor-fiction]

good answer from buildersmate

[factor-fiction]

I'd be interested though in buildersmate's view of thugulike's response to an alternative posting of this question. Thugulike refers to the special terms of teacher's contracts
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Law/Question553 217.html

[Pesk]

Which teacher's union are you in? ATL have a really good booklet on teacher's rights & redundancy. It's free to members. If you're in another union, check out their advice.

[buildersmate]

I could find little on the http://www.teachernet.gov.uk website to absolutely confirm this apart from this document, which a Staffing Protocol document produced by Liverpoll City Council that mentions it in passing.
http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/_doc/8256/Liverpo ol_staffing_protocol.doc
Maybe because I wasn't willing to register with the site that I was limited to what I could access.

The ATL publishes what I found to be an excellent document on teacher redundancy. You can download it here.
http://www.atl.org.uk/atl_en/images/Redundancy %202007_tcm2-1677.pdf
It mentions that the conditions of a teacher's employment conditions in a maintained school (i.e. public-sector) only allow for termination of contract at the end of a term, and I suspect these dates are either 31 December, 30 April or 31 August - it is built into teacher's employment contracts. All the examples in the booklet are based upon one of these dates. However if you are a member of the support staff, kittysas, look at para 64 because these dates may not apply to you.
Sorry about my initial assumptions being wrong - we live and learn. BM

[factor-fiction]

In the reponse below scoobydoo has challenged thugulike's response.
http://www.atl.org.uk/atl_en/help/A_Z/r/redund ancy/teachers_payments_and_benefits.asp

It's a shame that this question was posted in two places on Answerbank- the responses have appeared in two places have gone down slightly different tracks. If a question is posted just once it's easier to see the full picture and follow the thread.

[factor-fiction]

Here's correct link to Scoobydoo answer and responses to other posting of this question
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Law/Question553 217.html

[kira000]

It doesnt address the issue of whether they are allowed to make yo redundant at this time, but in terms of your worries about money; it would be well worth looking at contacting some local councils in your area, as most run council playschemes and will usually snap the hand off someone with teaching experience and a clean criminal record to run it for them! The hours are reasonable, if its nice weather you can often spend time outdoors with the kids, and if the pay is anything like when did it for a few summers, it is definately btter than nowt!