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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/as ia/article4251551.ece
If we are serious regarding the "War on Terror", isn't it time we took action against these safe havens for terror training?
Pakistan especially.
If we are serious regarding the "War on Terror", isn't it time we took action against these safe havens for terror training?
Pakistan especially.
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AOT � I am not trying to be funny but border between Pakistan & Afghanistan has never been considered like a proper border. Even during the Russian invasion this border was open completely. There were two reasons for that.
1 � First one was timely reason. The Americans at that time were on the other side of the border and they were supplying the same people all sorts of weapons and were supporting their fight as Jihad.
2 � Secondly tribes on the either side of the border have families and they never consider them as border. Few people say this far that few houses in those areas were literally front in Pakistan and back side in Afghanistan or vice versa.
So the trouble is more due to that as well. Because these people have never ever been divided as far as history goes and now Americans are trying to do that.
As far as your comment about their shooting in the air is concerned then they have traditions of carrying weapons, but are very peaceful but retaliating people. Crime rate in most of those areas have always been the lowest. For them carrying a gun is like carrying a hankie in the pocket. But that does not mean they are shooting each other all the times.
1 � First one was timely reason. The Americans at that time were on the other side of the border and they were supplying the same people all sorts of weapons and were supporting their fight as Jihad.
2 � Secondly tribes on the either side of the border have families and they never consider them as border. Few people say this far that few houses in those areas were literally front in Pakistan and back side in Afghanistan or vice versa.
So the trouble is more due to that as well. Because these people have never ever been divided as far as history goes and now Americans are trying to do that.
As far as your comment about their shooting in the air is concerned then they have traditions of carrying weapons, but are very peaceful but retaliating people. Crime rate in most of those areas have always been the lowest. For them carrying a gun is like carrying a hankie in the pocket. But that does not mean they are shooting each other all the times.
Are it all becomes clear now
Depends what side you are calling your side
If you think only because of living in the West should be enough for anyone to be on YOUR side
So we are back to the integration problem in our country. Peoples are happy to come to and accept the hospitality an benefits from living in Britain, but when it comes to the crunch it is Asian, African or whatever first and British second, even though some have been born and educated here and have never even seen the country of their ancestors.
To a certain extent I can understand matters from a pacifistic or anti-war point of view, but not when it used to craftily cover up unpatriotic leanings.
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Depends what side you are calling your side
If you think only because of living in the West should be enough for anyone to be on YOUR side
So we are back to the integration problem in our country. Peoples are happy to come to and accept the hospitality an benefits from living in Britain, but when it comes to the crunch it is Asian, African or whatever first and British second, even though some have been born and educated here and have never even seen the country of their ancestors.
To a certain extent I can understand matters from a pacifistic or anti-war point of view, but not when it used to craftily cover up unpatriotic leanings.
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keyplus90
Thanks for your teachings on the Afghanistan/Parkistan Border.
Are your cosy sentiments regarding the border between India & Pakistan the same?
They have traditions of carrying weapons, but are very peaceful but retaliating people.
You know this for certain do you keyplus?
Crime rate in most of those areas have always been the lowest.
Have you the crime rate figures to substantiate this claim?
For them carrying a gun is like carrying a hankie in the pocket.
Perhaps to be taken out with a pinch of snuff eh?
But that does not mean they are shooting each other all the times.
Well perhaps not all the time, perhaps some time out for Ramadan, perhaps?
Thanks for your teachings on the Afghanistan/Parkistan Border.
Are your cosy sentiments regarding the border between India & Pakistan the same?
They have traditions of carrying weapons, but are very peaceful but retaliating people.
You know this for certain do you keyplus?
Crime rate in most of those areas have always been the lowest.
Have you the crime rate figures to substantiate this claim?
For them carrying a gun is like carrying a hankie in the pocket.
Perhaps to be taken out with a pinch of snuff eh?
But that does not mean they are shooting each other all the times.
Well perhaps not all the time, perhaps some time out for Ramadan, perhaps?
You have no idea what you are talking about. And I am hearing that old rant from you as well. Living here, hospitality, benefits, bla bla bla���.
So you want people to agree with whatever regardless right or wrong only to prove their Loyalty to this country.
If that is the case then I am afraid there were more white people in the anti war demonstrations than Asian or others.
Then I have already judged that you do not have enough knowledge about Pakistan Afghan border situation and the tribal areas so it is a waste of time.
So you want people to agree with whatever regardless right or wrong only to prove their Loyalty to this country.
If that is the case then I am afraid there were more white people in the anti war demonstrations than Asian or others.
Then I have already judged that you do not have enough knowledge about Pakistan Afghan border situation and the tribal areas so it is a waste of time.
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shooting in the air is a quite old activity in that part of the world, AOG. Dangerous but traditional. Of course it wouldn't go down well here, but are you seriously suggesting Afghan tribesmen adopt the peaceful church weddings of the good burghers of Surrey? Because really, it's not going to happen soon. Interesting that you grumble about Keyplus not adopting British ways and yet you imagine when we send troops to Afghanistan... the Afghans should adopt our ways? Well, as I say, it's not going to happen.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Then I have already judged that you do not have enough knowledge about Pakistan Afghan border situation and the tribal areas so it is a waste of time.
Oh you are a snappy, nasty, little peron aren't you?
So YOU have judged that I do not have enough knowledge about the Pakistan/Afghanistan border situation eh?
Can I add pompous to the list?
What about your knowledge? Been back and forward over it have we then, naomi? Know the people personally?
Then I have already judged that you do not have enough knowledge about Pakistan Afghan border situation and the tribal areas so it is a waste of time.
Oh you are a snappy, nasty, little peron aren't you?
So YOU have judged that I do not have enough knowledge about the Pakistan/Afghanistan border situation eh?
Can I add pompous to the list?
What about your knowledge? Been back and forward over it have we then, naomi? Know the people personally?
Naomi?!!!! What in heaven's name has this got to do with me? I only posted one comment, at the very beginning, and that was to ask you what you think we should do about it. I didn't even respond to your answer.
I think perhaps you ought to go and lie quietly in darkened room for a while until get your brain together.
I think perhaps you ought to go and lie quietly in darkened room for a while until get your brain together.
Phew. You two falling out confused me for a while back there.
I do agree, though. Any country so backward that it marks a celebration by firing ammunition into the sky deserves to be attacked by NATO and bombed sky high.
Newsflash - London annihilated by international bombing campaigns after gun salutes on Accession Day (6 February), the Queen's birthday (21 April), Coronation Day (2 June), the Duke of Edinburgh's birthday (10 June). the Queen's official birthday (one of the first three Saturdays in June), when Parliament is prorogued by the Queen, on royal births and whenever a visiting Head of State met the Queen in London, Windsor or Edinburgh.
You have to be consistent.
I do agree, though. Any country so backward that it marks a celebration by firing ammunition into the sky deserves to be attacked by NATO and bombed sky high.
Newsflash - London annihilated by international bombing campaigns after gun salutes on Accession Day (6 February), the Queen's birthday (21 April), Coronation Day (2 June), the Duke of Edinburgh's birthday (10 June). the Queen's official birthday (one of the first three Saturdays in June), when Parliament is prorogued by the Queen, on royal births and whenever a visiting Head of State met the Queen in London, Windsor or Edinburgh.
You have to be consistent.
Quinlad
I do agree, though. Any country so backward that it marks a celebration by firing ammunition into the sky deserves to be attacked by NATO and bombed sky high.
I am so glad we can agree on this one. But I am afraid that is where it stops.
The similarity between the British ceremonial gun salutes (that you have taken a vain attempt to research and type out), and groups of Muslim hooligans firing live rounds into the air, just does not work.
If you had thought this one out, you should have come to the conclusion, that the firing of blank charges at a low elevation, is somewhat different to firing live rounds up into the air. Especially if it is a war zone and one happens to be flying over the area at the time.
You have to be sensible.
I do agree, though. Any country so backward that it marks a celebration by firing ammunition into the sky deserves to be attacked by NATO and bombed sky high.
I am so glad we can agree on this one. But I am afraid that is where it stops.
The similarity between the British ceremonial gun salutes (that you have taken a vain attempt to research and type out), and groups of Muslim hooligans firing live rounds into the air, just does not work.
If you had thought this one out, you should have come to the conclusion, that the firing of blank charges at a low elevation, is somewhat different to firing live rounds up into the air. Especially if it is a war zone and one happens to be flying over the area at the time.
You have to be sensible.
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