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[Mountainjoe]

Hi

What's the consensus on 21a - hake or gade?

(Full clue: Fish of an order which includes cod, whiting, pollock and haddock (4))

Research suggests either, but there have been a couple of emphatic "gade" postings on AB.

Thanks

[JoolsTwo]

I've put Hake

[Mountainjoe]

Thanks. That's the way I'm leaning.

Best wishes.

[Catron]

And I am going for Gade - sorry!

[shaneystar2]

Gade ..because whiting and hake are same thing in my neck of the woods .And whiting is already in the clue .

[Mountainjoe]

Seems to be gade. I wish Harry Hill was here.....gade or hake, which one's right....only one way to find out.....FIGHT!!!

Thanks.

[shaneystar2]

I'm sure Kate will put us right next Sat ..she's fond of these odd little clues as seen by the Bevin Boys !
You jog along and then she slips in a stumper ...Good Luck .

[jeremykayp]

Hake is defined as being of the gasidae family, and all the fish in the clue are.

[taize]

The Order is Gadiformes - includes some 10 Families -
e.g.
Gadidae - cod, haddock (aka 'offshore hake'). tomcod,etc
Merluccidae - hake
Macruridae - whiptail

gade (Motella argenteola) is a small British fish of the cod family; A pike, so called at Moray Firth; -- called also gead!

I have gone for Hake ... the clue asks for �Fish of an Order which includes cod ... � the clue does not ask for a 'fish of the cod family'

[Parmenides]

Try Dictionary.com - hake is closely related to cod, while gade is from the cod family (so they say!)

[Catron]

This discussion will rage until next week when we get the answer, it seems BUT taize, I am afraid Chambers does not show gade as a small fish:

Gadus
n the cod genus, typical of the family Gadidae .
[Latinized from Gr gados the hake or similar fish]
gade or gadoid n a fish of the genus Gadus, to which the cod and hake belong.
gadoid adj belonging to, or resembling, this genus.

To me the question is asking for the ORDER of fish to which Cod, Whiting etc belong and that is Gade.