Ronaldo, dumps his bird.....

[R1Geezer]

OK you are going out with a model type who tends to pose semi naked for a living. How do you live with that as a bloke? Do you think Ronaldo is brave to own up publicly that he just can't stand the idea of other blokes, including his mates oogling his bird? How do women like that find stable relationships? I mean most blokes want a leg over but would be weary of commitment because of forever having to keep an eye on her, effectively making the assumption she is shallow. A good one for that well known genius in this area Andy Hughes, Andy over to you mate!

[Octavius]

To be honest I don't think she is all that and once you've chased and caught it and sampled it a few times, you can get a bit bored after a while, especially if her only resounding talent and attraction is to display her baps at every given opportunity. I don't know, maybe she has a lot more than just that going for her.

He is a 23 year old multi-millionaire, he will have ooodles of attractive women throwing themselves at his feet, so why not live his young life to the max and play several fields? I would if I could! And I am sure you would too.

[Rtaxron]

It will be even more embarrassing for him if he goes to Real Madrid, as one of the players there has slept with her!!
Cant remember his name but hes Spanish with long hair.

[Rtaxron]

Octavius,

Yes I would too. : - )

[funnygirl]

I believe it was Ramos and she is allegedly fond of footballers and does not go out with anybody who's not.

[cazzz1975]

I wish the blokes would think with their brains occasionally

[R1Geezer]

fair enough Octavius but why did he not just quietly dump her and move on to the next one. No need for all the soul searching stuff is.

I take your point though if her, (and others in that profession) only talent is flashing her bits I'd imagine she'd be pi55 poor company except in the sack.

[R1Geezer]

care to make a contribution then cazzz, rather than hi55ing from the side lines. I'm just trying to understand the issues here.

[firetracie]

Questions for the guys here. Is there a difference between a woman who makes a living from getting her boobs out and a woman who is topless on a holiday beach?

They're both displaying their wares for all to see but one of them gets paid for it. How come a male partner finds the beach baring ok but questions the career choice? Do you watch your female partners more closely when on holiday than you would at home in case someone is 'oggling' her? Or is it that in the case of the career booby someone is - if you like - paying for it?

[R1Geezer]

tough one tracie, but I think there's a whole world of difference going discreetly topless on the beach and being on Page 3 of the national dailies! There is also the huge embarrasment of people you know seeing, mates pi55 taking etc etc. There's also the whole celeb thing, I mean most girls going topless would not get reported but go out with a top footballer and sudennly privacy goes out of the window.

[firetracie]

There's not much that is 'discreet' about walking around a holiday resort topless. OK, so you don't expect to see people you know but you might. And, is it ok for people you don't know to see your partner like that? At least your mates might react with some respect and decorum - even if it comes from embarrassment. So is the topless the issue? Or the perception?

If it's not the act that's the problem.............then it's about how you think about it.

[andy-hughes]

Thanks for your kind words R1Geezer - I assume no irony intended? Even if there is, I missed it on purpose because I take all compliments at face value!

So - to the question -

I think for the man it is entirely an individual matter of perception. One man may feel proud that the world looks at his partner and lusts after her, and another, and this seems to be Ronaldo - may feel that he is not comfortable with the situation.

I don't think Ronaldo is 'brave' to publish his feelings, it is really a matter for the two of them.

From experience - I dated a stripper years ago - you can get used to a woman's physical attraction, no matter how devastatingly attractive she is, and if there is nothing else to build your relationship, then it's going nowhere.

I would have no problem dating a woman who is photographed nude - if she is with me, then she is with me, and just because she shows her body does not mean it is open season for every guy with a penis and a pulse to step up and try it on - i think it is insulting to a woman in that situation to assume that nudity equals promiscuity.

Trust me, most men are far too shy to try and chat up a woman whose beautifukl body they have seen via her employment - and if you can;t trust your partner without 'keeping an eye on her', then she is ther wrong woman for you.

It would have been more gallant of Ronaldo to discuss this isue with his partner, and part company if he felt he could not resolve his feelings. To bleat everything to a newspaper simply makes her look bad, and makes himself look like a wuss - so no-one wins.

[Rtaxron]

Thanks funnygirl,

That so called model who was in B-B only goes out with footballers, shes had about 3/4 since Teddy Sheringham gave her the penalty kick.

[R1Geezer]

Thanks Andy, no irony intended!

This works both ways between the sexes. If one is what you might call the "Beautiful person" who can take their pick of the opposite sex how do they convince someone they are serious about that they are sincere and strong enough to resist temptation. I mean andy when you dated the stripper she must have had offers every day. I mean do they just have to hang around for their looks etc to fade before they can have a normal relationship?

[firetracie]

andy-hughes ... steady there. You're beginning to make me think differently about men (lol)

Seriously - I agree with your argument. A relationship is about how you relate to each other. If you aren't secure in the relationship it doesn't matter whether the woman is a drop-dead gorgeous stunner or someone you wouldn't turn a head at. You're going to be insecure and will imagine that everyone else wants her as you do - and, what's more important - you'll think she'll respond positvely to outside attention because you're no good.

Maybe his 'soul baring' has more to do with his own insecurities than he's prepared to admit. If you're too scared to date 'a looker' maybe you should turn to introspection rather than extroversion.

[andy-hughes]

R1Geezer

She probably did have offers - she was drop dead gorgeous, but it's not something O bothered about. If she wanted to go off with someone else, she would, and no amount of fretting by me would change that - only spoil our relationship. i think she enjoyed the fact that i never gave her a hard time about other guys.

I simply remembered Joanne Woodward's response when asked how she kept her marriage to Paul Newman, one of the most saught-after men in Hollywood -

"Why would he go out looking for hamburger when he gets steak at home ...?"

Can't really argue with that can you?