Belfast Telegraph Prize Crossword Sat 19/7/08

[donegore]

I would be grateful for the answer to four clues (am finding it really tough this week!): They are: 3down (five letters) 'Treatise that *** laude gets maximum praise' -U-M- 11across(three letters) 'Code number has its point' -I- 26down(three letters) 'Saying something that's cutting' -A- 28across (eight letters) 'Evensong has ING in it A-R-N-D- Many thanks again (need to get it posted today!) Fiona

[Rapparee]

11a Pin
26d Saw

[baitress]

3d - summa laude. a treatise.
26d - saw.

[ladyalex]

3d I've only seen this as SUMMA *** LAUDE, not SUMMA LAUDE, though

[ladyalex]

For some reason the answerbank has blanked out the middle word, presumably it did the same to your post.
That word was S*U*M

cannot really see what could possibly be offensive about that word ????

[ladyalex]

Sorry, cannot type C?U?M
Still cannot see what is offensive about it , though....

[donegore]

Many thanks everyone (don't know why the '***' was blanked out either!)

Regards

Fiona

[baitress]

lady alex.
a treatise is a summa if you then add *** laude makes for maximum praise. I fail to understand why answerbank blanked out the word ***.

[donegore]

Many thanks for all your help - now I just have the one clue left to get - 28 across ' Evensong has ING in it'

It's eight letters long and the letters I have are as follows:

A-R-N-D-

Sorry to be a nuisance!

Best wishes

Fiona

[ladyalex]

I'm afraid you are wrong, baitress.
Summa c?u?m laude means with maximum praise.
c?u?m means with
laude means praise
summa is an adjective meaning highest .
I have no idea what the latin for treatise is, but it ain't summa

[baitress]

ladyalex.
my copy of the New Shorter Oxford Dictionary gives the definition of
SUMMA plural SUMMAE(noun and adverb)
1. A Treatise
2. A Manual
3. A compendium of knowledge
4. a degree summa *** laude

[ladyalex]

Sorry baitress, I had never heard of summa=treatise before.
I had always understood it to be part of the latin phrase 'summa c/u/m laude'.

I thought that degrees/dissertations etc were awarded in ascending order on the basis of their being
c/u/m laude = with praise
magna c/u/m laude =with great praise
then
summa c/u/m laude =with the highest praise.