adhd.

[Abdulmajid]

Apart from the legal consequences, why can't the kids just receive a damn good whacking to keep them in line.

It is just a new fangled woolley neo-liberal term for naughty kids if you ask me.

Is my bigotry again evident, or do I raise a valid point?

[B00]

Second post about this topic today. Have a look see in CB, there's one there too.

[Abdulmajid]

Hey ho.

But perhaps there will be a more reasoned response on B and S.

Then again, probably not!!!

[Chloe636]

Although I don't agree with a 'damn good whacking' I do agree with your post in essence. I am a teacher and I have had several children with ADHD. In my experience you get the parents to change their diet and set some boundaries at home, you set the same boundaries at school and you get a child who begins to understand that actually... they don't rule the roost.

You definately raise a valid point. The behaviour these children display, in comparison to their peers, shows they have no boundaries. They are used to getting their own way and will completely flip out if they don't. ADHD may well be a condition but after 12 years of teaching I can honestly say I have never had a child diagnosed with ADHD that HASN'T improved after these boundaries have been set.

For some parents, giving a child a label is as good as saying 'oh he has ADHD, just ignore him' when it is the opposite that is needed.

In my opinion of course...

[Abdulmajid]

I can only echo your points re diet etc.

I too am a teacher but in the private (re Public) schooling sector and can safely confirm that due to their middleclassness and no doubt having decent parents, ADHD is simply not an issue.

The boys are good!!!!

[daffy654]

Chloe636,as the mother of a child who has Aspergers Syndrome I was advised not to have my son diagnosed as it would be tantamount to labelling him.I wanted to know what was wrong with him and I needed that 'label' so that I could research how best to help my son.Not all parents of children with learning disabilities use that disability as an excuse for their child's poor behaviour!

[Bathsheba]

I caught a bit of a discussion about ADHD on Jeremy Vine today on the radio, and it was suggested that some parents actually pester their GPs to prescribe Ritalin for their children in order to claim benefits for them. Also it was mentioned that a lot of child-rearing is "feminised" these days, and boys are simply not allowed to "be boys", with no father-figure around.

[legend.isgod]

Isnt interbreeding a problem in the middle to upper classes?Hence the large amount of upper class twits ?


Re: adhd its an illness end of.

[theonlyone]

Think Abdul is right as children do need
to know who is in control ..a slap on the
hand could change a childs life ...
i'm talking about 2-3 year olds ..the
formative years ...there is a saying
can't remember it ..but sure Ab will
remember ??

[sleepyj]

i know some kids that go to a private school they are right little s od s

[theonlyone]

Abdulmajid ....
You did make it ..
Cool geezer ..sort things ...

[Bathsheba]

Is this it, onlyone?...".Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man"

[Whickerman]

you do raise a valid point. There's no way that every kid diagnosed with adhd actually has the condition surely. It's like it's every second child these days.

As for the corporal punishment side - I'm all in favour of a smack on the ar$e if a kid's lost the plot, so long as there's not a return to victorian values of whipping etc.

Q. How many kids with adhd does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. ...let's go play on bikes!

[theonlyone]

Yes ..thanks ..Baths ..but now will also
include the girls ...

[Chloe636]

Daffy - we are not discussing Aspergers here, we are discussing ADHD and as I am sure you know, the two conditions are extremely different. I have also taught children with Aspergers and other forms of Autism and would never dream of treating them the same as badly behaved children.

The difference between ADHD children and Aspergers is that Aspegers children don't always realise their behaviour has consequences. They don't have that cause and effect understanding. I have taught children with ADHD who would look directly at me whilst punching someone. I would also say 'if you do that XXX will happen' and they would continue, whilst looking at me. These children are purposefully 'naughty' for want of a better word.

I agree, sometimes 'labels' help and I understand as a parent why you would want to hel your child. But I also agree with Bathsheba - a lot of parents of children push for a diagnosis because they know they will get extra money. Sad.. but unfortunately true.

[icemaiden]

I was watching Supernanny last night and was shocked at the behaviour of the three children, especially in the car. The swearing was unbelievable. The fighting etc..

I'm no expert but you only have to look at the parents, no punishment and no bounderies set. The most shocking part for me was towards the end of the programme where out of pure rage the Mother hit one of the children right across the face.

But it got me thinking. If the parents were to take these children to their GP, would he say they have ADHD?

Because look how the "Supernanny" brought in bounderies and punishment, what a difference!

[Aprilis]

Theonlyone, is the phrase you are looking for 'Spare the rod and spoil the child.'?

[terambulan]

Whacking is too much for a little-one. A condone a sharp wrap/smack up to the age of 5 by which time they will have learned when you mean NO.