enhanced CRB check

[jimbob703]

I was recently considering applying for a mental health nursing course but obviously there's an enhanced CRB check and they said I had to disclose allegations too. A few years ago I had a search warrant executed at my flat; I was never arrested or even questioned under caution and never saw the inside of a police station. They simply turned up, searched my flat, and left with nothing. Would that show up on an enhanced CRB check? No arrest or visit to a police station or fingerprinting or anything.

[cumbrianlad]

No it won't.

It would contain details of all criminal convictions and criminal cautions but not what you have described...........so GO FOR IT and good luck.

[pink-kittens]

I would say it might rather than an outright no
http://www.crb.gov.uk/Default.aspx?page=400
(the first paragraph headed Additional Information)

You must have been cautioned even if you were not arrested?

Hopefully someone with more insight will be able to tell you

[jimbob703]

No I wasn't cautioned - maybe they should have or were supposed to but they didn't caution me, and I simply signed my initials next to where they'd written down my answers to their questions. I was slightly misleading in my original question - they did take some things from my flat, which were returned to me later with no further action taken; but as I said before no arrest or questioning under caution ever took place. I don't suppose it would make any difference whether I was under caution as to whether it appeared on an enhanced check though. I was under the impression that after Ian Huntley repeated allegations would be on there - or major investigations where you were arrested etc. but one allegation with insufficient evidence to warrant an arrest?? Only enough to get a search warrant?

[pink-kittens]

I think I perhaps used the wrong wording - were you read your rights? You know the one where they say 'Anything you do mention may later be used blah blah'?

I think it could be damned if you do and damned if you don't type of situation

[jimbob703]

no - that's what I meant when I said I was never questioned under caution. I was never read my rights,
They showed me the warrant and gave me a copy - my name was on it and my adress so I clearly WAS a suspect but they never said "it may harm your defence if you do not mention.....blah blah blah" They just introduced them selves said why they were there and started questioning me while turning my flat over. I signed my initials to acknowledge what I'd said in response to their questions but that was as formal as it got. The whole thing was over in an hour and I was never under arrest and the only visit to a police station was a few months later when I received a letter saying I could pick up my things as they had found nothing incriminating. A search warrant is clearly a big deal, but I can honestly say I've never had so much as a parking ticket and I've never been arrested for anything. It was all dealt with as informally as I imagine a search warrant could be. But there is an implication that an enhanced CRB check shows up "allegations" but would a search warrant without an arrest being made show up on this check? The allegation was never really put to me in a formalised setting i.e a police station, under caution, with a tape recorder and solicitor present. The allegation was just there by default from their line of questioning and the things they took for "further examiniation".

[pink-kittens]

If you read the first para in the link, it say (something like) anything the Chief of Police considers irrelevant so it is possible it may be included

It could depend on what job you are after and what the search was looking for, perhaps? I certainly would not assume it won't appear on an Enhanced check - a standard one yes, but not enhanced

[jimbob703]

no they weren't - I've only been a member of this site for 5 minutes and I've already noticed you have a tendancy to be argumentative and contrary and wind people up. Just need to know if a search warrant would be listed without an arrest or formal questioning or formal allegations being put to me. I suppose I could apply for some random volumtary position that requires a CRB check to find out. Apparently they don't do one on the Mental Health Nurse course until you're a good way into the course so I need to know beforehand, otherwise I could have wasted my time. I read there's a test case ongoing where a deputy head of a school was fired because a single allegation of sexual assault turned up on his file - obviously he WAS arrested and questioned properly but since he only had the one unfounded allegation he's fighting to have it removed as he can't now get a job, even though it never went beyond arrest and questioning. My situtaion never even went that far so I qould appreciate any info that anyone could give me.

[pink-kittens]

Pay no heed to Tetjam/Mamjet

Take his replies with a pinch of salt and *sometimes* they are funny - this one is not tho

[Bob906]

Do you know what the Search Warrant was issued for in other words what were they looking for.

[jimbob703]

well yes obviously, but I'd rather not say - it would be relevant to a mental health nurse job, or to any job really. But because I was never arrested or taken to a police station etc.etc as I said before I would have hoped that it wouldn't have been recorded. They clearly had very little evidence against me, I was very surprised when they said they had no intention of arresting me or taking me to the police station unless they found something in the search of my flat or unless I admitted something there and then.

[zraze1]

I am trying to follow the teacher case to <only because I cannot afford the lawyers fees If he wins I win I will go to the crown myself and get my unfounded allegations removed from my crb enhanced disclosure far too many good jobs lost through b___**** from kids