hypothetically.........

[The Sherman]

If i threw a grenade and managed to take out an athiest, 4 terrorists a paedophile a wife beater but then accidentially it also killed a child as well would i get into heaven?

[chakka35]

naomi, probably my failure and I apologise. No insult intended.

Octavius, hardly surprising when you consider that I am a non-religious zealot! It's about time that reason had a bit of zealotry on its side.

[naomi24]

Chakka, thank you.

[The Sherman]

Chakka if your interested just found a website thatwith dawkins mentioning a scale of beleif from theist to athiest

where he places himself in category 6 which means he must have it open to him that there can be a god.

if your going to be an athiest 'zealot' fair enough but don't place ME or DAWKINS in the same category

1: 'Strong theist. 100% probability of God' to the equivalent 7: 'Strong atheist'. He doesn't see 7 as a well-populated category, placing himself as 6: 'Very low probability, but short of zero. De facto atheist'

[Octavius]

Sherman, that probably also relates to your magical pencil query, in how the scale of all things (including beliefs) is down to personal choice, interpretation and differences of opinions.