does everyone have turkey?

[joet75]

or do you choose something different for Xmas dinner ?

[legend.isgod]

i will


all the trimmings and puddd and all that crap


lol


seee ayaaaaaaaaaaa

[joet75]

did you see jamie's prog about cheap chickens??
we didn't eat any for weeks after. cruel beyond belief.

[CAJ1]

I have a 16lb turkey from the butchers for 4 people which I have been told by my friends is way too big so I'm sure I'll have trouble stuffing it into the oven lol

[CAJ1]

And if I do get it cooked, we'll be eating it forever!

[LoftyLottie]

I only ever buy proper free range now from a known source if possible.

Living rather near Mr Matthews in Norfolk and having close friends who have worked there, I would not eat another factory turkey ever again!!!

[LoftyLottie]

But I don't like turkey anyway!

[mccfluff]

whatever takes my fancy on the day i guess

[joet75]

1st turkey we bought was massive. wasn't thawed so xmas dinner was late that year. loads left over & we ate it for days.

factory turkeys are treated bad are they?

[LoftyLottie]

Well, let's just say I don't think you would be very impressed joet and it might change your mind about eating them! In my opinion they are treated very badly.

http://www.factoryfarming.org.uk/turkeys.html

I am not a vegetarian by the way or a member of any protest group, but that link is actually true.

[LoftyLottie]

And just recently a couple of Matthews employees were prosecuted and sacked for playing cricket with live turkeys.

That sounds silly! I mean using turkeys as the 'ball'.

[mccfluff]

that's sick

[carrust]

When I used to supervise community service, I had a guy who'd been done for cruelty to animals. He'd been given a puppy, & as puppies do, it chewed some of the furniture. He tied a brick round it's neck & threw it into the local pond. It got free, so he kicked its head in!!
He was a slaughter man by trade, & he took his 9yr old son to the abattoir & let him slaughter a calf...I despised that man!

[LoftyLottie]

Oh Carrust that's so horrible.

However, I do not understand how people who care in any way for the welfare of animals can work in a factory farming environment.

I used to work in the local job centre, and even back in the days when the unemployed were 'forced' back into employment, they never forced anybody to work at Matthews!

[carrust]

I'm not a violent person, but I had all-on, not to throttle that reptile.

[pinkkitty]

the chickens we are getting are from the battery hen welfare trust and are former battery hens who will be about 12-15 months old when we get them. Their egg production has slowed down to less than the expected 1 egg per day, so they are considered "commercially unviable" and would be sent to slaughter. They have lived in a cage less than the size of a piece of A4 paper, have never seen daylight and have never walked. Many limp when you first get them because their legs are so weak, they have broken wings and hardly any feathers, and their combs are flaccid and white, not perky and red. My in-laws took some in about 6 weeks ago, and they were in a horrible state, but now they are flourishing thanks to plenty of fresh air and TCL, their combs are red and their feathers are growing back in. I can't wait to get our chickens. we already know we're going to call them Orm, Cheep, Charlie and Lola

[LoftyLottie]

Oh bless you PinkKitty! May they have a long and healthy life and give you plenty of eggs.