the general election

[gingerflaps]

who is everyone voting for in the general election, i think im gonna go with UKIP

[toby19]

why oh why oh why would you vote for ukip?

The very idea of a party that stands for the united kingdom independance party. the very idea doesnt work its a contradiction. wales,england and scotland all have nationalist parties, at least vote 4 one of themif u have 2but not ukip whick stands for f**k all.  

Lib dem all the way bann tuition fees and annoy Blair and howard.

[bernardo]

There is an obvious reason why many people will want to vote for the UKIP - i.e. to get the UK to be independednt again, instead of being a province under the overlordship of a corrupt, wasteful, undemocratic, unaccountable dictatorship.  It is not in any way a contradiction.

[jake-the-peg]

I saw a car yesterday plastered with "Save the Pound" and  "UK out of the EU" stickers.

It was a Peugeot

[delilahcat]

LOL, Jake-the-peg.

Doesn't that just say it all?

[mike1222]

I agree with Bernardo about the corrupt, wasteful, undemocratic, unaccountable dictatorship - but who would we replace Blair with?

[littleoldme]

Despite the scaremongering, the UK already is independent, so UKIP's existence is pointless. Besides, I never see the point of voting for one of these 'one trick pony' parties. OK, so you get us out of the EU, then what?

I think I'll probably vote Lib Dem as the least of three evils among the main parties. Not that it will make much difference here in sunny Sussex - they'd elect a donkey if it was wearing a blue rosette (and indeed frequently do).

[KebabMeister]

I'm going to abstain; there simply isn't one single party that I can identify with.

Labour are up their own arses and Tony Bliar is a self centered idiot only interested in his popularity and changes agendas at a drop of a hat.

Tories still totally out of it.  They want to make many cuts to frontline services which would have a detrimental effect on everything in the UK.  They need a new image and a new leader.

Lib Dem... well, they're living on another planet!  They may have nice ideas but they need a reality check!

I can't remember which Scottish party, it might be the SNP, not sure.  They want to ban everything nuclear in Scotland.  That's one hell of a statement.... and the cost of doing that would be astronomical and cost many jobs (not just power stations but nuke sub bases/factories!).  Would be good news for England though and they'd have to move south.

I've always voted local Independent; i.e. local issues/agendas.

[KebabMeister]

I forgot to mention, gingerflaps, vote for whoever you wish and take no notice of anyone else.  You're entitled to your vote and you can do with it as you wish.

[bernardo]

I saw a car yesterday plastered with "Save the Pound" and  "UK out of the EU" stickers.
It was a Peugeot

And your point is....?  There is no contradiction, as you seem to be implying.  The UKIP is a pro-European party, and specifically describes itself as such in its own literature. [It is the EU itself which is "anti-European"].  It is internationalist and in favour of free trade.  There is nothing wrong with a person owning a Peugeot who wants independence and democracy.

I am sorry,but I regard UKIP as an Intellectual (just) Middle Class version of the BNP!

Then you are very misinformed.
The BNP is racist; the UKIP is anti-racist.
The BNP is monoculturalist; the UKIP is multiculturalist.
The BNP is protectionist; the UKIP is free-trade.
The BNP is interventionist; the UKIP is laissez-faire.
The BNP is (economically) socialist; the UKIP is capitalist.

Despite the scaremongering, the UK already is independent, so UKIP's existence is pointless.

The UK is not independent; it is a province within an undemocratic superstate.  The EU makes 70% of the UK's laws, and the commissioners who make the laws, regulations and directives are unelected and unaccountable and cannot be removed. 

Besides, I never see the point of voting for one of these 'one trick pony' parties.

The UKIP is not a "one-trick pony"; it has a full range of policies on a wide range of issues, and has a full manifesto.  In 1997 and 2001 its manifestos had 12 and 16 pages respectively, with detailed policies.

OK, so you get us out of the EU, then what?

After we get out of the EU, then we will be able to get our democracy back and make our own laws.

[jake-the-peg]

The contradiction is simple.

This individual hasn't made the link between supporting a country's political and economic independance and supporting a country's industry. 

Economic independance is the ability to set your own economic policy. Economic policy is determined by economic performance and economic performance is determined by people buying your products.

[elgroucho]

The UK is not independent it is a province within an undemocratic superstate.

No it is not. We are a kingdom, not a province. The EU is not a state or a superstate either. It has no head of state.

[OBonio]

I have no idea really.

Saw question time the other week and the UKIP rep on it was the only level headed, straight talking member of the panel. She stated the facts as they are and I agreed with her on many points.

I doubt I'll vote for them though, purely because I don't think their 'bigger picture' is as comprehensive as the big 3.

If a party vowed to put 'No Confidence' on ballot papers, I'd vote for them. It'll never happen though :o(

[jake-the-peg]

A friend of mine told me that the returning officer has to personally insect every spoiled ballot paper. Which was why he always turned up and instead of voting wrote "Hello mister returning officer" on his slip.

Probably tells you more about him than the candidates!

[bernardo]

This individual hasn't made the link between supporting a country's political and economic independance and supporting a country's industry.

That would require each country to have an isolationist, protectionist policy of self-reliance, and with no international trade.  (i.e. a bit like North Korea).  The UKIP position is in favour of free trade, but we can still trade without needing a political union of 25 countries.

No it is not. We are a kingdom, not a province. The EU is not a state or a superstate either. It has no head of state.

The EU makes 70% of the UK's laws.  Just because it doesn't have a "head of state" doesn't mean it doesn't have power.

[gavinbecky]

I'm doing what Richard Pryor encouraged in the film Brewster's Millions - 'vote for none of the above' - That or the monster raving loony party.

[jake-the-peg]

UKIP are in favour of "Buying British where possible" it says so in their maifesto.

They are also infavour of a "Britishness test" for immigrants! the mind boggles!

[elgroucho]

The EU makes 70% of the UK's laws.  Just because it doesn't have a "head of state" doesn't mean it doesn't have power.

Nobody would deny it has power, but you called it a state and it isn't. It is probably worth pointing out that virtually all the important laws are still made here.