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LISTENER CROSSWORD 4022 At arms length by Hotspur
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Maybe all our prominent members are resting after last week's exertions, so I'll kick off this week's thread. Haven't had more than a glance at it yet and am not too familiar with this setter.
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Yes, take our word for it , it can happen - most recently (and painfully !) in March last year - Listener 3975. Clamzy's example is actually from 2006 (Listener 3885) - scary how time flies !
PS Is it just a wild coincidence that this puzzle's title can be seen over on the right hand side of the grid ?
PS Is it just a wild coincidence that this puzzle's title can be seen over on the right hand side of the grid ?
Ah yes I remember both of those now. Two examples still counts as rare, though. And I maintain in this case that firstly, fictional characters are clearly expected, and secondly, there's a glaring example from a work that it could be assumed all solvers are familiar with. So I really don't think the alternative would be accepted.
Oh well, back to this after a few minutes distraction on 4023. Now got 5 and probably 6, but B is definitely eluding me - assume it's by B****c, but still can't find a character other than the N one which is more obviously associated with O. Time for a guess methinks.
The 122(123) is all the more impressive, given that at least one entry has been deleted for referring too explicitly to answers.
The 122(123) is all the more impressive, given that at least one entry has been deleted for referring too explicitly to answers.
No deleted threads as far as I can tell - perhaps you are referring to midazolam's posting a week ago (No. 42) as follows:
midazolam
Mon 23/02/09
08:33 got there in the end - struggled with this more than most. amazon of all sites got me over the finishing line
nice idea but there are several criticisms to this puzzle.
I feel with enough searching one could find 13 down as a member of the first set (and i think it does but it is not the obvious one) so it is not as sound as it could have been.
midazolam
Mon 23/02/09
08:33 got there in the end - struggled with this more than most. amazon of all sites got me over the finishing line
nice idea but there are several criticisms to this puzzle.
I feel with enough searching one could find 13 down as a member of the first set (and i think it does but it is not the obvious one) so it is not as sound as it could have been.
I'm probably imagining it - after a week of staring at the same grid, anything is possible :) I thought I remembered a reference to the answer, but perhaps that was a mental translation of 13D to the answer.
Still can't find B's B with any amount of Googling, and I don't have the requisite reference guides - this is the first time I haven't been able to google such an answer. Not sure I dare buy yet another reference book - Mrs Deviant might get upset.
Still can't find B's B with any amount of Googling, and I don't have the requisite reference guides - this is the first time I haven't been able to google such an answer. Not sure I dare buy yet another reference book - Mrs Deviant might get upset.
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