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The Weird Thing About The Irish
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I've just been out in Covent Garden celebrating St Patrick's Day with a few Irish mates, and a few 'fake Irish mates' (the ones who suddenly discover they have family in Cork who remain dormant for the rest of year)...and something became glaringly obvious..
...the Irish can celebrate St. Patrick's Day and include people like me who is black and sticks a temporary 'O' with an apostrophe onto his surname for and evening to celebrate with them.
Furthermore, looking around the West End of London, I saw black, Scots, Americans, Chinese and Asians celebrating alongside the Irish in the same way that they do with the lefties at the Notting Hill Carnival.
So the question is - can there ever be an inclusive St George's Day, in the same way that the Carnival is, and St Patrick's Day is, and the Mardi Gras is?
Why can't moderate Brits wrestle the idea of a St. George's Day celebration away from the far right?
I've just been out in Covent Garden celebrating St Patrick's Day with a few Irish mates, and a few 'fake Irish mates' (the ones who suddenly discover they have family in Cork who remain dormant for the rest of year)...and something became glaringly obvious..
...the Irish can celebrate St. Patrick's Day and include people like me who is black and sticks a temporary 'O' with an apostrophe onto his surname for and evening to celebrate with them.
Furthermore, looking around the West End of London, I saw black, Scots, Americans, Chinese and Asians celebrating alongside the Irish in the same way that they do with the lefties at the Notting Hill Carnival.
So the question is - can there ever be an inclusive St George's Day, in the same way that the Carnival is, and St Patrick's Day is, and the Mardi Gras is?
Why can't moderate Brits wrestle the idea of a St. George's Day celebration away from the far right?
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But why not Irish events?
Do you think it's because there are so many English bigots who turn up to 'English' events, deliberately trying to make blacks and Asians feel uncomfortable?
Why do some sections English society do that? Why don't the Scots, Irish and Welsh?
I've been all over the country and the only place I've ever seen real red-faced ugly racism is in England - never in Scotland, Ireland and Wales.
Why are some English like this?
Is it genetic?
But why not Irish events?
Do you think it's because there are so many English bigots who turn up to 'English' events, deliberately trying to make blacks and Asians feel uncomfortable?
Why do some sections English society do that? Why don't the Scots, Irish and Welsh?
I've been all over the country and the only place I've ever seen real red-faced ugly racism is in England - never in Scotland, Ireland and Wales.
Why are some English like this?
Is it genetic?
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Might it be a shared history thing. I mean, we all know the 'landlady stories' from the 60s and 70s ("No dogs, no blacks, no Irish"). Perhaps the Irish feel a kinship with ethnic minorities because they had similar stories dealing (the tiny minority) of racist Little Englanders when the came here to work?
Might it be a shared history thing. I mean, we all know the 'landlady stories' from the 60s and 70s ("No dogs, no blacks, no Irish"). Perhaps the Irish feel a kinship with ethnic minorities because they had similar stories dealing (the tiny minority) of racist Little Englanders when the came here to work?
we all know the 'landlady stories' from the 60s and 70s ("No dogs, no blacks, no Irish"
Well that makes a change it can't have been because of colour then, maybe it was all down to previous experiences with blacks, dogs, Irish.any ideas what was the problem?
There are still many places that don't accept dogs.
Well that makes a change it can't have been because of colour then, maybe it was all down to previous experiences with blacks, dogs, Irish.any ideas what was the problem?
There are still many places that don't accept dogs.
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