no driving lincene,but provisional and no insurance

[tammayo1234]

whats the likely fine . i only drove few yards
i was forced to do it for a friend.

[albaqwerty]

you were forced? did friend hold a gun to your head?

[marval]

Sorry forced, did they hold a gun to your head? Next time say NO.

[chas2008]

no insurance = 6 pts (i believe) if you had a full license you would then have to retake your test, not sure what happens on a provisional

[ianglyn]

if your friend asked you to put your hand in a fire WOULD YOU.

[rnchugg]

Law states, provo licence 6 points, as you can only get 6pts in your first year that gives you a minimum of 12 months ban, then 6 points when you re apply. so it will cost you :- a new licence, the renewl fee and anything up to a �1000 fine depending on how the judge feels. Sorry to sound negative but thats tthe british judicial system!m (btw that's not mentioned the no insurance)

[cazzz1975]

say no next time, not worth the hassle was it...

[derekpara]

Prxck.

[New Judge]

You will be convicted of two offences: Driving otherwise than in accordance with your (provisional) licence (no �L� Plates or accompanying qualified driver) and No Insurance.

If you have no previous convictions you will receive a minimum of six points for the no insurance and a fine of about �250. You will receive a fine of about half that for the licence offence, but no more points (points are only awarded for the most serious offence when two or more are committed at the same time). You will also pay prosecution costs of about �60 (provided you plead guilty) and a �15 Victim Surcharge.

God knows what rnchugg is on about.

[rnchugg]

New judge i am not disagreeing with your comments BUT:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAn dNewDrivers/NewlyQualifiedDrivers/DG_4022566

You can and most proberbly will be banned for the offence of no full licence and no insurance. As regards to the fine, well the fee is negoable!

[New Judge]

The �New Drivers� regulations which you quote chug, will not affect tammayo unless and until he passes his test, and only then if he commits further offences which attract penalty points within two years of passing that test. In that case he will have his full licence revoked and he will revert to provisional status and have to retake his test. He will not be banned from driving.

Your answer is extremely misleading:

�Law states, provo licence 6 points, as you can only get 6pts in your first year that gives you a minimum of 12 months ban�

It says no such thing. It says that if a new driver receives six or more points within two years of passing his first test his full licence will be revoked. (It says nothing about being banned from driving). For these purposes any points imposed before the test was passed count towards the total. So a driver with six or more points upon passing his test will have his licence revoked if he gets any points within two years.

The New Drivers' regulations do not provide for a ban in any circumstances, only for revocation and reversion to provisional status. The only way a provisional licence holder can be disqualified is in the same way as full licence holders. That is, to commit a single offence which attracts a ban or a series of offences which attract 12 points within three years.

The �1,000 fine you quote is the statutory maximum. Magistrates� guidelines suggest fines along the lines I suggested in my first post.

As I also said, No Insurance is far more serious than the licence offence (it carries a statutory maximum fine of �5,000) and it will attract the points. The licence offence will attract a further fine, but not any additional points.

tammayo is most unlikely to receive a ban unless he has previous convictions.