Man Dies retrieving keys

[BertiWooster]

What a horrible way to go .

http://news.bbc.co.uk...hampshire/8364534.stm

It is a sad reflection on the society that we live in today that people dont feel it safe to go and investigate a cry for help - is it not ?

Would you have ventured out to investigate ?

[ChuckFickens]

I would like to think I would go and check it out, I live opposite a pub so hear screams, shouts etc quite often at kicking out time and if I think it sounds out of the ordinary I will always check what it is.

[Bbbananas]

I'd like to think so - especially in such a place as the IoW, but you never know. Perhaps I'd have put it down to drunkenness also?
Poor bloke.

[ummmm]

I'd go out if I heard someone shouting for help.

[4getmenot]

do you think they even looked out the window? I always have a good old snout whenever I here things

[daffy654]

I have ventured out in the past when i've heard screaming.I once saw a young girl (aged about 12) being dragged into a van and being beaten around the head and shoulders.I grabbed her from the man dragging her and took her to my home where I called the police,she came willingly by the way and kept thanking me.

It turned out her mother had sent this man to find the girl as she was late home for tea,her mother came to my home and tried to attack me for interfering.The police told me to not get involved if I saw anything like it again and just to phone them with the details such as registration number of the vehicle.

[ummmm]

Some people eh?

I remember when this bloke nervously knocked on my door holding my daughters hand. He'd seen her come off her bike and ran to help her and brought her home. He looked ready for a slap...but he got a kind thank you very much.

[jake-the-peg]

h yes a sad reflection of todays society

Do you know violent crime was only invented in 1963?, Nobody had locks on doors until 1953!

It's young people today and their i-pods you know!!

Who is this idiot coroner? He's been told that people thought it was just drunken shouting and decided to launch forth on his hobby-horse of "people too scared to leave their homes"

I'm not to scared to leave my home but if I thought it was just drunks messing about I wouldn't go and stick my nose in.

They wouldn't have to leave their homes to dial 999 would they?

What an idiot

[jake-the-peg]

Maybe that's just where you live.

Where I am people will go and get involved if they hink someone needs help.

They just thought it was a bunch of drunks - they said so.

Someone needs to have a word with the coroner and tell him that hearing a case of public interest does not give him a platform to pronounce his personal opinions on the evils of modern society.

If he wants to do that there is a general election coming up and he should stand there and not abuse his office

[ummmm]

Well I've been out a few times when something has happened in our street. So have my neighbours.

[daffy654]

Nothing ever happens in the street where I live now...apart from my neighbours being noisy.
When I lived in Hull it was a different matter and i've gone out on may ocassions to stop trouble...mostly by one 15 year old lad who in the police's words was a 'paedophile in training'. This boy used to love asking out young girls (my then 10 year old daughter included) and then beating them up when they refused,he also stubbed a fag out on the back of a dog once right in front of me (I won't tell you what I said and did to him).He used to torment the local 'weirdo' as he called him regularly and I 'remonstrated' with him on many ocassions over that too. Nobody else ever said or did anything to stop him apart from me (7st skinny female with a big gob).Most people just don't want to get involved if they can avoid it nowadays

[ABerrant]

"They wouldn't have to leave their homes to dial 999 would they?"

A solid argument if it was the case that any of those who heard the cries had dialled 999, but they didn't. Mark Wells' body was found the following morning, 6ft from the nearest house, by a man out walking his dog.

[ludwig]

"He died as a result of asphyxia caused by the position of his body preventing him from breathing properly. "

We don't know the details of how long he was there shouting for help, but this suggests that it wasn't long before he died. He probably only had a chance to let out a couple of cries before he passed out, so it doesn't reflect to badly on the people in the area.
If he had been there for hours on end shouting HELP I'M STUCK and people just studiously ignored it, that would indeed be a sad reflection on society, but it doesn't look to me as if that's what happened.

[Quinlad]

I wonder if they were skeleton keys...

[ABerrant]

'Richard Reed, who was staying that night with a friend, Stephen Gulliver, said in a statement read to the court: “I got up to go to the toilet and heard a voice shouting. It seemed like a pleading voice and I thought it was drunk people. I heard the voice shouting, ‘Help me, help me please’, so I went and knocked on Mr Gulliver’s bedroom door. He said it was probably drunks, and I ignored it.”

Mr Reed then went back to sleep.'

http://www.timesonlin...uk/article6920850.ece

[IggyB]

its not a new phenomenon - this story of people witnessing a murder but not wanting to get involved from the 60s always amazes me
http://www2.selu.edu/.../scraig/gansberg.html

IIf you're being attacked scream "fire" at the top of your lungs - people come running if they think their property is in danger not if they think another human being is in trouble.