Who would be a Teacher?, they need a medal !

[Bobbisox]

TEACHERS’ terror McKenzie Dunkley has been expelled out of school … aged just four.



But his mum reckons her lad is a little angel.


McKenzie has become the youngest child ever to be expelled from a British school after despairing teachers accused him of running riot and kicking them.


They even had doors modified to stop him running out of the school.



The final straw came when McKenzie, who had already been temporarily excluded, booted a teacher who was trying to make him pay attention.


Just heard about this on Mathew Wrights Show !!!
I have to ask the Qs, is 4 too young to start school, this lad was 4 yrs and 2 months having started school in September...
What can teachers do now to combat this type of thing?, they have no powers at all, no one condones smacking a child, I don't, although I don't suppose it did me any harm, if I was in trouble at school I would have had to face the wrath of Mum or Dad for it.
Where do we go from here for a future generation?
also , had the school not taken this extreme decision, would it not open the floodgates for an unruly infant to become an unruly boy, who then would claim compensation in later years from the Education Authority, for being 'picked' on

Bobbi x

[Sqad]

I hope that you are right vibra.

[ummmm]

I understand where Vibra coming from. My middle child started going off the rails a bit. He was good at home but disruptive in school. The school knew that we'd had a very hard year and done everything in their power to help him. He use to have one to one sessions to talk about his feelings and they arranged outside councilling.

But...they new he wasn't a lost cause so tried to nip it in the bud before he got into the habit of being naughty or got a reputation for being the naughty kid.

He's doing really well now....

So it's not just learning from the parents, there could be emotional things going on at home for this little boy and when they can't articulate their feeling they can start to lash out.

[Changing_man]

halcyon days

who would be a teacher eh?

[Sqad]

ummmm......that supports vibra's point.

[ummmm]

Yes I know. I'm only saying that from experience. Doesn't change the fact that if my kids were naughty I'd give them a slapping. There are certain things I'll put down to kids being kids and other things absolutely not.

Just because we were having a hard time doesn't mean he went unpunished by me or the school. It was just a matter of being a bit more understanding of the emotional situation we were in.

[Sqad]

ummmm.......I have rather blinkered views about councilling......probably biased, but I have little faith.

I have never seen any scientific studies showing the benefit against no councilling.

[B00]

The problem we have here ummmm is that here we have parents who refuse to accept that their child is anything other than a lovable scamp, when in reality he's mini mafia

[ummmm]

It was good for him for the simple reason that I wasn't there for him. I was so wrapped up in my own grief that I couldn't console him. Something that I have apologised for but you don't see it at the time. He needed to talk and cry for his loss but couldn't come to me...so he got angry.

[ummmm]

Yeah..that annoys me BOO. I always take other peoples word for it if they complain about my kids. My kids are guilty until proven innocent :-)

[Sqad]

BOO.....quite........she would rather support a method that would "fast track" her darling son in to "major mafia"

[Bobbisox]

the fact the parents are refusing to cooperate is the crux here, the child may well be able to be helped and guided, I think the parents are doing the kid a great injustice

Bobbi

[Ankou]

that was my point really b00, i reckpon the mother of timothy would shrug and chuckle at the mere suggesiton of her little soldier needing behavior therapy.

[Ankou]

and on your point ummmm whether or not timothy had emotional issues that affected his behaviour, if he harmed my little girl i would be up the school to strangle the fecker, and his mother.

[Bobbisox]

and ummm by recognizing you child needed expert help in dealing with what must have been very traumatic for all of you

you are a good parent

Bobbi

[ummmm]

Ankou...If my son hurt another child I'd be marching them to that childs parent...and they know it. No matter what was going on at home. They have to learn....I can't go round shouting my gob off because I'm sad...so nor can they. Like I said..regardless of what's going on at home my children do not go unpunished.

What happened in my case is the school was teaching a well behaved boy who was turning bad. They called me into school to find out if anything was happening at home. I explained everything and everything fell into place for them and they done everything to help him.

[ummmm]

Thanks Bobbi...he's back on track now and doing really well.

[Ankou]

ummm i think if it is a sudden or short term change in behaviour as a result of circumstances then that is fair enough, children are as prone to human emotions as adults, but generally it is unruly behaviour that continues unchelkced or unchallenged by the parents that i am talking about really. i see that little dunkley boy being timothy at my daughters school, and the mum's attitude just dpresses me.